SCOTT: This is the Life Enthusiast Co-op Podcast, which is a story of vitality to you and to the planet. Let's join our hosts, Scott Patton and Martin Pytela, now.

SCOTT: Welcome back, everybody. You're listening to the Life Enthusiast Co-op Podcast. I'm your co-host, Scott Patton, along with Martin Pytela. Restoring vitality to you and to the planet. Martin, how are you doing today?

MARTIN: Doing good, Scott. I'd like to introduce a guest of mine, a friend of mine, even though we have known one another only for a short while. But I know if we're not friends yet, we're going to be great friends because Matt and I spent a little while talking together, and I already know that we both share this passion for helping people and helping the planet. So I want to introduce Matt from the new company that Life Enthusiast Co-op is introducing, and it's called Agia Water.

MATT: Oh, how are you doing? Doing great. How are you guys doing?

SCOTT: Good. 

MATT: So, is there any specific questions you guys want me to address concerning these new products and the minerals that we're introducing to the world?

MARTIN: Well, first of all, Matt, I'd like to ask you a question. Why is it that we even need to introduce minerals to the world? I mean, there are rocks everywhere.

MATT: First of all, that's a good question. The main thing is, we are minerals. We're a colloid mineral, suspended colloid mineral system with a liquid salt fluid that runs through us, electrically charged. So, to have the proper mineral complex within us is one of the most important things for our bodies as far as having tools to make our bodies function most efficiently.

MARTIN: So, this kind of says the same thing I was saying earlier to our listeners: the quality of the electrolyte will dictate the quality of your life.

MATT: Yeah, and the electrolyte is the key because when you say electrolyte, you're saying electric. The body is an electrical system. It communicates with electrical signals, and that's why there's a big push right now in the market for a raw food diet. The biggest reason for that — most people go alkaline and try to talk about alkaline and these things where a lot of them are just missing the point. We have electricity; we have a vegetable or fruit which is acidic and electric, and a mineral system that's within this plant, surrounded by nutrients. So, the key is the mineral because the mineral actually is like the magnet that keeps all the nutrients together, keeps all the things in order. It's the communication device.

To give a quick example of that: all computer systems run off crystals. Most people don't know this. Radio systems when they came out in the 40s were called crystal sets. Computers have a silicon pad in the motherboard. That's what allows all the information to transfer.

So, this mineral is the key because it holds the information and the energy that allows our body to communicate. And when it's electric or liquefied in an electric state, it's most absorbable and has the best communication availability to it. Our body can send it wherever it needs to go. And that's more the key: electrolyte being the key because it's fluid and it can travel right through the bone marrow.

MARTIN: Right. I mean, I'm well aware of it. The signaling in your body — for every contraction of the muscle, a calcium ion has to be present. For every relaxation of a muscle, a magnesium ion has to be present. For every exchange of energy, your sodium and potassium pump has to be activated; it has to be able to execute these transactions.

MATT: Absolutely. And one of the biggest things I think is lost in understanding that is every mineral on the periodic table, when you're talking about nature and natural formations, whether in humans, plants, rocks, or anything on earth has a matrix. And so in order for your body to completely be able to communicate with all of the minerals properly, there has to be a matrix. That's where the information has all been lost because they've been isolating everything, taking things out of its natural compound form, and trying to add this and add that. That's why raw food dieters are having the best success when it comes to health and energy.

MARTIN: So you're saying that this method that the pharmaceutical industry has adopted, where they try to isolate everything down to the single component and treat a single problem with it, is just completely backwards?

MATT: Yeah, and I would add that it's not just the pharmaceutical companies. The pharmaceutical companies are just following suit. More than anything, it's the top echelon of science, we're talking about the Royal Society and groups like that that rule the world of science. They've basically got the idea or theory that man has better capabilities of creation than nature does. And that's where I think we went backward instead of just following the path that was already there before man decided to change it, like managing wildlife.

MARTIN: Oh, by shooting the wolves or poisoning the rabbits?

MATT: Yeah, whatever. It's everywhere. I mean, I can go into some of the stuff I did when I was younger with the buffaloes in West Yellowstone, Montana. But you know, it's everywhere. We can't manage nature. That's the problem. We can manage ourselves, but we can't manage nature. Because when we do, look at how much retracking they had to do just with the wolves. I mean, just talking about the wolves, they went from no wolves to reintroducing them, and now they don't know what to do. It doesn't work when you do that. So the idea is: keep nature intact. Let nature be the guideline principle for our decisions when it comes to health, when it comes to living, and then take what the best thing that we know we need. Go by our basic instinct: do we feel good? Do we feel healthy? Do we have energy? Are the problems that we are experiencing gone,  versus just blindly taking something for the sake of what someone says in a lab coat.

MARTIN: Yeah, it comes back to the holistic cellular terrain management versus chasing the symptoms.

MATT: Exactly. Absolutely. It's the entire body, the whole mechanism, just like nature. It's like the water problem. Now you have an imbalance in water worldwide, and that's causing major havoc worldwide. We don't even know the detrimental effects that we created 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago that we are experiencing now and we'll experience even more as we go further down the road. It's just going to get escalated. It's a cumulative effect.

MARTIN: Well, let's describe some of the problems that people get into when they have mineral deficiencies. Well, one of the biggest problems we have is people taking calcium pills, you know, isolated minerals or colloidal minerals, things that your body can't possibly digest in a thousand years.

MATT: This is the misconception, I think, when a scientist explained what a mineral is. What I always tell people is: when they ask "is this mineral good for me," I say, "well, what form is it in? Where did it come from?” Those should be the first questions you ask when you look at a bottle of minerals. If you look at a bottle and it just says "magnesium," "calcium," and you don't know where it came from and it's just a pill that says "mineral complex” –most of them created in labs, if you don't know that it came from a plant or a root or a tree or in its whole form, you shouldn't take it. You should stay away from it. It's only going to do more harm than good. In fact, most people don't even realize this. Look up the definition in the Webster's Dictionary, I want people to do that for themselves, look at what these things mean. "Colloidal mineral" says right in the definition: "too large to pass through cell membrane." Anybody in chemistry, science, or microscopy will tell you the most effective form of minerals pass through the cell. If water cannot get into the cell, then you are dehydrated and you retain water. That's where women have migraine headaches, swollen ankles, water retention, bloating during menstruation. Men having fallen prostates and everything else out of whack. Men have more problems than women in most cases, but they're just too numb, in most cases, to feel it or they don't care. Women are a lot more sensitive than men, from what I've found, that's my personal opinion. 

But as far as minerals, people are just out of control, buying the next best thing, buying the next best juice, buying the next best thing in a bottle. The reality is we need something that's whole. Like you referred to electrolyte, electrolytic something that has a charge, a positive electric charge, and can assimilate into our body from a natural state, versus trying to put a square peg into a round hole. You can't do it.

MARTIN: So you're saying that if I, for instance, think I have osteoporosis and I try to fix it by eating some ground-up dolomite rocks, or calcium carbonate, or chalk, or whatever the pharmaceutical company is offering me, it's just not going to work for me?

MATT: Well, that all depends on exactly what kind of process you're putting those through. But if you're just eating them raw, you're not going to have any success. And the biggest problem is you might actually, like I said before, do more harm than good in most cases. That's because when you put complexes like that within your system, you can't possibly digest those things. In fact, when we decided to extract minerals from stones, we had to do the same thing nature uses. A volcano uses sulfuric acid at high temperatures. That's how you get the result of volcanic ash, liquid magma that actually purifies the water.

You've seen just from where you're at, with Mount St. Helens in your area, when you see a mountain go off, two years later, you don't see things get worse, you see them get better. And that's due to the pre-digested minerals that are thrown back onto the Earth. So the reality is, when you eat a stone or something that's in its rock form, that's not how a plant would give it to you. That's not how something in nature would give it to you in your water. It would have to be dissolved first. That's what plants do best — they dissolve minerals.

MARTIN: Yeah, well as I understand it the plant roots with the presence of microbes, with Fulvic Acid and Humic Acid are able to dissolve these minerals down to this ionic state so the roots are able to take it up and bring it up and so on, right?

MATT: Yes, and that's why we're having such a big problem now, because of the unconventional farming practices. The unnatural farming has destroyed those microbes. And there's where we run into the mineral deficiency problems. Now they've genetically modified everything, so now they can have a plant that looks like it's good but it's not. It has prions and who knows what else in there,  that's a whole other topic. But yes, you're absolutely right.

MARTIN: Okay, so the question I asked you is: if a person is not ingesting the minerals because, for instance, they're eating food that's grown in soils that have lost their original mineral content, what sort of problems are they going to run into?

MATT: That's linked to every mineral having a deficiency syndrome — which basically is what you would call a symptom.

MATT: So what we look at is all the different things. For example: copper,  anemia, grey split hairs, pale skin, circulatory dysfunction, and that's just to name, copper. When you get into the other minerals, there's a whole new set of symptoms that you face. And when you look at certain minerals like copper, magnesium, and a few others — they're all linked to specific illnesses or symptoms that let you know that those minerals are needed to take care of that problem. So minerals, obviously, in their whole state, will communicate properly and give that information to the person. From what I've researched myself, looking at other doctors' work and scientists' research, trace minerals — the reason why they're so effective in a liquid electric state — is because they vibrate at the same frequency the gene does, which is 10,000 vibrations per second. Now, the reality is most people who have problems blame them on their "bad genes." But when you really want to talk about genetic problems, we go back to mineral deficiency problems.

You can use a perfect example: someone from the Great Depression didn't get enough food because there was really no food available other than potatoes, and they were lacking all these minerals. What are they going to pass down to their children? A mineral deficiency. Now it becomes a genetic disposition. There's a doctor, Hidetaka Nakjima, who studied this for over 15 years in Japan and ameliorated over 4,500 stage 4 cancer patients just using minerals. In some cases, the patient was too scared to just use the minerals, so they would use it in conjunction with chemotherapy or radiation.

MATT: And the main thing they found is that even during chemotherapy, when it destroys, the minerals in the ionic form are actually rebuilding the cells. So at the same time you're killing yourself, you're rebirthing yourself. And that's something people have not connected to — because most people don't understand what's goin g on inside. They just look at it like: "If I see it, I believe it." And that's the problem. So, yes, to answer your question,  if you're deficient, and you're lacking one mineral, more than likely you're lacking more than just that one. And each mineral has its own symptoms attached to it.

MARTIN: Right. Well, I mean, we have done a lot of work, for instance with Magnesium, and we know that there's a lot to do between magnesium and a whole bunch of illnesses, especially for instance, heart angina, kidney problems, bone problems, inflammatory responses. I could go quite technical and start discussing each and every element, but that's really not what I wanted to get into. My understanding, and what I'd like to portray to people, is: if you're eating food that is mineral-deficient, your body is going to run in a deficient manner. That's correct?

MATT: Absolutely. Because minerals, here's the main reason why minerals are so effective in the body: minerals have two main functions, deliver nutrients into the cells, and deliver toxins out of the body. The main thing people don't realize is the minerals' function in the first place. So if you're deficient in minerals to begin with, of course, you're not going to be able to get all the nutrients into your cells that your body needs.

MARTIN: Okay. Well, I have a question from a different direction for you: How do you know all of this?

MATT: What's that?

MARTIN: How do you know all of this? What have you read? How did you get to understanding what you understand?

MATT: The main thing is I think it was becoming a mineral efficient. I started drinking this mineral water that I got from Japan. I had a mineral concentrate. It was a liquid solution. I started adding it to my water. The first thing I noticed, my wife was breastfeeding, six months into our first child, and before she started drinking this water, my daughter cried every day. Most people would call it "colic." My wife's breasts would hurt so badly from the lactation that she couldn't bear it most of the time. She would just sit there and grunt in pain for a while. What I noticed was the minerals immediately stopped it. The next day: no more pain, my daughter stopped crying and happily ever after, obviously. But the reality is when I started to consume these minerals, especially in water, things changed dramatically. Dehydration is one of the number one causes of illness, but minerals are what bind water properly in the body.

You can read any water book.  I don't care if you look at Viktor Schauberger, Batmanghelidj, all these major water experts, they're all going to refer to the importance of minerals being balanced with water. That's the key. So that's what I was doing. And the first thing I noticed is my thoughts became clearer, my colon emptied out, and all of a sudden things were absorbing like magic. You don't have to think. You don't have to try to remember things or try to be fluid in your conversations or thoughts,  they just come to you automatically. So I think the first step was obviously consuming the minerals. Then I had an affinity for the knowledge. I started researching all the major water experts, mineral experts. Anybody that would give me information that was validated and true, I would absorb it. I became like a walking dictionary or encyclopedia. That's how I first began to obtain the knowledge. Through personal experience, studying, researching water experts, mineral experts. I look for congruencies, I always refer to the universal parallels, the congruencies, things that always fit no matter how you say it or do it. If it doesn't fit, if it's not scientifically accurate, if it's not naturally accurate, then it doesn't belong. 

MARTIN: So I guess you could call yourself an expert now, huh?

MATT: Well, you know what, some people might call me an expert. I just say I'm me and that's all I am. I try to help people.

MATT: I think my main thing is: when I realized how fast this works. I've seen it time and time again. I've seen it with Dr. Linda Hanks-Strand who's an MD/PhD, studied at Yale. She's as credible as it gets. When I saw her under a live microscope with three stage 4 cancer patients back to back to back and saw the results, I mean, there you go. You have to see it to believe it. Well, I saw it. And that's where I get this passion to really share this with people. It's not like you want to tell them it cures everything. It's a life-changing experience as far as lifestyle and the direction you take. You can't just want to stay unconscious and that's the problem most people have. They don't want to bother with internal knowledge. They want to just focus on paying their bills, working their 9-to-5 jobs, getting through the day, maybe have time for their kids if their kids aren't driving them crazy. They're fatigued, they can't sleep properly, they don't eat properly. So first, you have to want to change all of that. And I believe when you're mineral-efficient, you're drinking the right water, that comes naturally. It'll come in time — you just have to be patient with yourself.

MARTIN: Great. So this is the first part of our interview with Matt Bakos. I will be introducing these products over the next two segments, but for now, thank you, folks for listening. This is the Life Enthusiast Co-op, restoring vitality to you and the planet. Watch for next week when we explain exactly what these minerals can do.