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Caution with ORMUS

06.10.2012

by Carter - Barry


Caution with ORMUS

Based on past experiences of Ormus pioneers

The ormus material that David Hudson supplied to people contained about half a percent of ORMUS gold.

The gentleman who fasted for 43 days and had the kundalini awakening experience did not take any pure ORMUS gold during that period. Much later he took "very little" ORMUS gold for "not very long".

David Hudson also implied that this gentleman was going through the "Egyptian Rite of Passage" which was a nine month process which started with a fast and ended with the person becoming a "light being" himself:

"According to the "Secrets of the Golden Flower", it takes 10 lunar months, which happens to be the same as the Egyptian's said, 9 solar months, same time frame, but at the end of this, at the ninth month, he literally becomes a light being. It's the breaking through of the cosmic egg, and he literally becomes a light being, capable of levitating and capable of bio-locating. To literally disappear here and reappear someplace else."

Hudson suggested that this gentleman would become a "light being" if he continued to take the powder for nine months in his 1995 Dallas lecture. A July 27, 1996 interview with this gentleman revealed that he started the fast "About two years ago". At the time of the interview he said "I still take material but I don't take it in that volume". He also admitted that he had not bio-located.

Despite these facts, David Hudson continued to imply that ingesting the white powder for nine months, after a forty day fast, would enable one to have some sort of ultimate transcendent experience. Hudson continued to imply this as late as his 1999 lecture in Dallas. When asked what had happened to the gentleman who had done the fast he said something like that the gentleman had quit taking the material before the nine months were up.

Here are the problems that I see might arise from some of these misconceptions:

People might think that a forty-day fast while ingesting the m-state materials will inevitably lead to "enlightenment". There is no evidence that this is true. In fact the gentleman who did the fast suggested that it was not true at all when he said:

"I knew what to do. But there are very, very few people who do. This takes place internally. It's an active process. You're not going to sit there and have this zip through you and all of the sudden these wonderful things are there. It can't be that way. That's not the way the circuit is set up in your system. Your chakras and realizations are not built that way. Nothing is built that way. And to expect something outside of that is absolute foolishness."

People often mistake the signposts of psychic powers and kundalini awakening for the destination. In a sense, there is no destination since this implies an end of change. If someone gets to a psychic or kundalini awakened space and hangs there then they are clinging to the signpost and will not be able to proceed on the road as long as they are attached to the signpost.

A kundalini awakened American engineer named Gary, in one of his private posts to me, described one of the greatest dangers of mistaking the signpost for the destination:

"Hudson's mind is not open to new ideas at this point, and he will stay like that for some time. Some of his associates can even be described as quite hostile towards my article, like the ORMEs-consumer interviewed on the moderated forum. Kundalini amplifies arrogance, just like everything else, and I find I still have problems with it myself, despite 7 years of steady work on it. One day, they will see it truly though."

This "arrogance" is something that might reasonably be seen as a correlate of the development of psychic "powers" in advance of an expansion of one's heart in love. I see love as the connecting factor in All That Is. It is the universal quantum coherent glue, which binds us all together.

I am sure that each of us can think of someone who has attained kundalini awakening or psychic powers yet her or his behavior remains aggressive and disrespectful. Both psychic abilities and kundalini awakening can be seen by the individual who achieves them as validation of their personal power to attract what they want. Their ego is fed by these things but their love suffers.

Despite his awareness of the problems associated with arrogance and kundalini awakening Gary wrote me the following in a note just before he died on July 4, 1998:

"I have nearly completed my preparations, to make a personal physical transformation. Nothing quite like this has ever been done before, throughout the history of all past ages of man upon this planet, thus success is by no means assured. But, these are times without precedent, and when much is at stake, the risks and costs are correspondingly high.

However, if like Jacob, I prevail with God, there will be a sign in the sky, beginning during that night separating July 3rd and 4th. The heavens shall then become red, like a refiner's fire, and you may safely watch this with everyone else.

If this takes place, it will be explained as the Earth unexpectedly encountering and passing through a cloud of energetically ionized krypton gas; such is to be acknowledged, but is only a small, ancillary physical-level effect, and hardly the First Cause. I will meet with you thereafter."

Another kundalini awakened colleague who is both a scientist and a mystic wrote the following after having some kundalini experiences triggered by m-state materials:

"The contacts that I have been getting from Gary have only intensified over the last few days, as I shared with you today. I feel there is a strong message here for all ORMUS seekers.

Far from everyone's expectations, the ORMUS material may end up addicting if used carelessly and more "binding" rather than "liberating". It does not, in fact, produce any "release" from the cycle of birth-and-death. It only lifts what is normally dense - our embodiment, our mental and habitual tendencies - up to a notch, to what is less dense, or more subtle.

The subtle qualities, as for example a kundalini arousal, a samadhi, or even a psychic faculty, are often aspired by everyone as indicative of "attainment". This could not be farther from truth. The Truth embodies everything, the subtle, the dense, and even nothing whatsoever. What is more dense - our reality - is not, in fact, one iota farther away from Truth, nor is the subtle any closer.

"Going into the light" means going into another realm of phenomena, however subtle it may be. In this regard it is still a realm of illusion. It has not, in fact, transcended birth-and-decay.

Even the complete destruction of ego, as Gary was often fond of saying, does not mean complete liberation. For, in the end, all of us still hold to a dharma, a truth, something to be expounded, a view. True liberation, the transcendence of it all, comes only when even the subtle views that we have of enlightenment, of each other, of a Truth however Universal it may seem, e.g., all this garbage that is our reality solidified, can be completely relinquished.

By grasping so firmly onto fine points that discriminate this hypothetical versus some other hypothetical, one clearly demonstrates that in the end there is still a view, something that needs to be explained, some theory to be explored, some truth to be shared, some attachment that needs to be severed.

This is all being written in fact for Gary's benefit and for anyone who thinks that ORMUS can bring short cuts."

Here is a final caution about this from another gentleman who has been described as a "master alchemist":

"Traditionally alchemists spent years preparing their students mentally for the internal application of such substances. Meditation, intellectual apprehension of divine process, a strict moral code and a deep understanding of self and the magickal nature of human relationships were considered necessary pre-requisites. I know from much personal experience that high end metallic preparations open ones mind to a vision of the true nature of reality very quickly. Most aspirants starting out on a spiritual path think this would be great - thinking that this process simply involves 'knowing cool stuff'. But the sad fact is that the Truth hurts, and the average seeker quickly discovers that they don't want the Truth and the "responsibility" that comes with it. Knowing the truth means acting in accordance with it or suffering the dreadful consequences. Until you understand how far away the average persons behaviours are from being productive - in line with the Truth - it is almost impossible to understand what I am suggesting here. In most cases arrogance will force persons forward and will have them taking powerful elixirs that in the last analysis will prove to be poisons for their unprepared systems.

Alchemists did not just die from inhaling mercury fumes, or from lead poisoning. They also died from taking the actual Elixirs and the Stone itself ... because they were not sufficiently prepared."


MSM and other sulfur nutrients appear to require an additional triggering factor in order to convert ORMUS to metal in the body. In the three situations that I know about the person was exposed to high energy electromagnetic forces in conjunction with the metallic gold fibers that came out of their skin. One of these people was Jim but another told me her story after hearing about Jim last November when I was in Australia. She said that she and a client also had gold fibers come out of her skin. When I questioned her about the circumstances she said that both of them had been taking MSM and had just been "treated" with an electromagnetic frequency device.

I suspect that the extra electromagnetic energy breaks the Cooper paired electrons and that the sulfur gives them something to grab onto. I discuss this more thoroughly in my workshops but I have not taken the time to write it up before.


Is Virtual DNA Being Effected Adversely by Ormus?

by moonreaderman@hotmail.com

The subject of monatomic/diatomic (whatever you want to refer to it as) elements is a subject that was thrown at me when I announced that I would start doing a study on Welz's orgonite and superconductive minerals, namely monatomic gold at that time. If you go to Ken Adachi's web site, you will see where this type of rhetoric is promoted.
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/monoatomicgoldthinktwice15aug05.shtml

I have or had close associations with Ken Adachi, Don Croft, Carol Deery, (now Carol Croft), Dennis from the UK, and many others in this group in the past. When I decided to go down this road of discovery of WPG/WPP and ormus, I had to disassociate myself with these folks. I did this because I had already passed their work after consuming what they knew on the subject of orgonite and other related subjects that surround this subject.

I feel that it was the consumption of higher concentrations of gold and platinum that let me see past their confusion on this subject, and they are confused and ignorant about this matter. I say ignorant because only the consumption of these mineral elements can take you out of this ignorance. Rhetorical opinion is not enough to take you past ignorance on this subject of superconductive minerals. And... "Superconductive minerals" are what all of this rhetoric about ormus and white powdered gold... platinum... copper... etc. really is.

I am now thought to be part of the "Illuminati" by these Orgonite-ists because I have strayed into this consumption of superconductive minerals. I think that this was the turning point where I realized that these folks were more close minded than I gave them credit for. It is a knee-jerk reaction to reject what you do not understand. Quickly rejecting what you do not know about is a sign that says, "I know everything already or I am too intelligent to consider something new." No real scientist can ever assume that everything is known on any subject that is researched. A real scientist realizes that everything can not be known fully. You just keep learning more and understanding more as you go. There are very few times when research on a subject is fully concluded.

No one needs to channel Ra Ta, Abraham Hicks, or any other spirit group or spirit entity to understand the notion that virtual DNA alters anyone or any soul negatively or positively. The answer to this notion is very simple.

The question is: Does this consumption of superconductive elements effect the soul that is inhabiting this organic vehicle we call a body. Or, is the soul effected when the organic body consumes superconductive minerals?

You only have to realize that "WATER" has all of these superconductive mineral elements as part of the structure of water. Thomas Geckler's water is an exaggerated prime example of this. The consumption of this water will give you the same "HUM" that is mentioned by white powdered gold users and ormus users. This is evidence proof of the existence of these elements in water and our organic body is recognizing this presence with the hum.

To consume "WATER", is the same thing as consuming ormus or white powdered gold. The concentrations may be smaller but all water has these superconductive elements.

So, it is total nonsense to contemplate that our "virtual DNA" is being effected adversely by ormus or any other type of superconductive minerals. Your food contains water to be food and without the consumption of water and food, you will not exist in this 3-D realm.

I hope that this puts everyone's mind at ease on this subject.


Making the Red Lion (or storming the gates)

by Steve Coleman, Ocean Manna

The "missing factor" is that for one thing, you don't have to have gold metal. Of course, there are a lot of "missing factors" in all of this. I have made several forms of "red whatever" from several sources now. One of them exploded when trying to boil it a few weeks ago. Fortunately, I was not standing next to it when it went off. It was in a lye menstruum that had distilled water added to it. It was having small detonations before reaching boiling point and basically refused to boil, so I increased the amount of heat several times until it had just started to boil slowly. I went inside the house and about 5 minutes later I heard it go off. There was red hydroxide "stuff" all over the place and the 12 quart pot was dry with multi-colored residue (mostly red) inside of it, and the burner was still going.

I turned off the burner and got the water hose out and started washing the stains off of the deck and the house, which went almost 20 feet from the burner which was in a 3 sided enclosure. Two days later I got very ill and broke out all over my body. I felt better in 3 days, which included taking M-3 and rubbing it on my body. The sores that formed took longer. However, I have experienced incredible dreams and experienced phenomenon I can't even explain since then... some very difficult to deal with and some like the heart chakra just cracking wide open, which can be hard to deal with and yet amazing at the same time.

I don't know what else to tell you from this except that there is a lot more to understand than what we know thus far. Somehow, I am convinced there is more than platinum group elements involved. Be careful, Smile a lot and Love a lot!

by Barry Carter

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