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Podcast 450: Predictions for 2023

Join Martin and his dear friend Scott wrap up the year 2022 and discuss their annual predictions for the new year. This episode is about all things related to the health of our society. Including politics, wellness, economics, history and the astrological forecast for 2023. Enjoy!

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MARTIN: Hi everybody, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast podcast, and today I have decided to again invite
Scott Patton, my long-term collaborator to do one of our annual: “Let’s review the year that’s been, and
let’s look forward into the year that is coming our way.” Scott Patton, my good friend. Welcome!

SCOTT: Thank you, Martin. Happy to be here again! This is Life-Enthusiast Co-op, restoring vitality to you and the
planet.

MARTIN: Scott has got this wonderful radio voice that I do not possess.

SCOTT:<laugh>. Thank you. I don’t think I do when I listen to myself, but I appreciate that. So yeah, we’ve been doing this sort of thing for 15 years.

MARTIN: At least. Yeah.

SCOTT: At least. Yeah.

MARTIN: We were really young guys when we started.

SCOTT: Oh my goodness, yeah.

MARTIN: I was just thinking back, my 70th birthday just went by a couple of weeks ago. And I’m thinking, oh my!
<Laugh> I’m clearly running out of excuses. Whatever I have not done, I might not finish in my lifetime.

SCOTT: <laugh> That’s uh, yeah. My mom’s 90th birthday is coming up, and I remember on her 80th birthday, I
said to her, I can’t believe you’re 80! And she said, I can’t believe I have a 60 year old son.

MARTIN: <Laugh> Very clever of her! I asked my 80 something year old mother, do you remember yourself as 18?
And she says, absolutely. It’s all there as fresh as ever.

SCOTT: Yep, that’s right.

SCOTT: It’s been quite a…

MARTIN: And then I thought to myself..

MARTIN: Go on.

SCOTT: I was going to say it’s been quite a year, Martin. And I want to do a testimonial because I’ve been thinking
about this a little bit, and one of the reasons why I want to do it is because I have a friend who has
diabetes. And for the last two years he’s had blotches on his legs and he just recently, he was going to
hyperbaric I think, an oxygen therapy thing, that really helped him. And it got him to the point where he
could actually have an operation. He’s had a hole in his foot for two or three years. And of course, I
didn’t know this until he had his operation and he was healing. Right? And yeah, so it was like, for two
years I’ve been trying to heal this hole on my foot. And then they had an operation, I think they removed
a toe.

SCOTT: And I mean, so it was pretty serious stuff going on with him in, in terms of healing. And I, so
there, that was one conversation. And then the other part of this is what happened to me this year,
which I was bitten by a black widow spider in my back. And it was kind of like, oh, what’s that? And I
reached back and I pull this thing and I look at it and it’s like a bunch of really mean looking spider legs
and then a black body. And I, the way I held it, the legs fell off <laugh>. So as I’m like looking at it this
close, right, and it had the, the red triangle thing, and I was like, but I didn’t know what a black widow
spider looked like. I just thought like, oh, you know, and I, a little bit it, little bit of an itch or whatever,
but no problem.

SCOTT: By the next day I was in bed pretty much unable to get up, sweaty, shaky, sicker than a dog. And in two
days, I had this much of my back was red, inflamed, infected. And so then I ended up spending about
seven or eight days in a hospital in Honduras. And they finally got super, super, like they had basically just
stuck a tube in here. And then they just put antibiotics in it, and it was amazing what other things that
have been bugging me for a long time were cleared up by the antibiotics <laugh>. So <laugh> like Oh! I
no longer have this going on, or I don’t have that going on with the antibiotics. Finally got rid of that, but
you know, minor little things. But they finally got all the puss and everything into one place and then
they did an operation and they cut a hole, no word of a lie, it was that long. (Describes length of hole
with his hands)

SCOTT: And basically the height of my finger and the depth of my finger. Underneath our skin, we look like a
good steak. I can totally get cannibalism now that I couldn’t get before. And of course, I told my friend
who’s gone through all this stuff for the last few years about it. And so I basically had wide open interior
flesh exposed to air and bacteria and everything that’s in the air. So every day I’d have to go in. Well,
after a little while of just being in the hospital, they said, you can go home. And every day I’d have to go
back and they would clean it. Yep <affirmative> and then after a month, and every so often they’d take a
picture and it would get a little bit smaller, a little bit smaller. So in about a month and a half it had
closed up.

SCOTT: So I don’t know if that’s good, bad or indifferent. But my friend is going, oh my god! You heal really fast,
because I’ve had the same sort of problem and it’s been two years. Yeah <affirmative>. And I just think,
oh my god, I am so glad I don’t have two years of doing this. Right? And so then it’s like, well, why did
this heal so well and heal so quickly? Right. And part of it is, in my mind I’m going, I love you hole in my
back, please get better, heal. And I’m visualizing it healing. And so there’s a mental and emotional aspect
to it, and a spiritual aspect to it I guess too. Because I would pray for my health. But then there’s the
physical part of it, right? Like, I couldn’t shower. Well, I could shower, but I could only shower like half my
body. <Laugh>, and you know, what I eat and that sort of stuff.

SCOTT: But I think that a big, big part of it is two products that Life Enthusiast has that I just think are lifesaving
products. And I have one of them with me right now, it’s Lazarus. It’s the most expensive superfood that
Life Enthusiast has. And it was designed to rebuild the body when a whole bunch of s*** the fan. And
I’ve been, I don’t know if it’s four years, five, like when did you, whenever it came out, I started getting it.
I went from Iridesca to this, right? Yes.<affirmative> Because I figured if Jevari was gonna make this to
keep him healthy as healthy could be, and it had everything he thought in, you know, like his expertise
and his knowledge and his history and his everything. Yeah.<affirmative> And his sons, then I’m going to
go with that for as long as I can afford it. And so this is something that for the last, is it five years now?
It’s got to be five years.

MARTIN: It’s been that long.

SCOTT: Yeah. So for five years, I would say, seven to eight bottles a year. Because there’s been months where I
miss it. Right. <affirmative> Like I run out. Yeah. <affirmative> And then it takes a while to get it and all
the rest of it. And also I think you should take a break. Like, I’m not sure that you should eat this. Like you
shouldn’t eat an apple a day for every day of your life. You’d probably be okay. But you know, take a
week off. And so there’s been some months where I haven’t had this,

MARTIN: There’s seasonality. Yeah. There is seasonality in nature, and we should have seasonality in our foods.

SCOTT: Right. And part of that is just listening to the body. Cause there are times when I’ve had the Lazarus here,
and my habit is in the morning, that’s my breakfast. But there are mornings where I go, I don’t even
really think about it. It’s just kind of like, no I’m not having it this morning. So you know, speaking to the
seasonality, like you don’t want to be obsessive over it, but I really feel like this is one of the products
that really has helped me come back from that injury. The other one, and I’ve just got here, I’m in Florida
right now from Panama, and I haven’t fully unpacked. And so in my clothes wrapped somewhere is Nano
Soma <laugh>.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: I was afraid I was going to get it wrong. And I’ve been taking that, I don’t know how long now, but easily six
or eight months. Yeah. Just in the morning and in the evening, three or four or five sprays in my mouth.
And I don’t understand it at all, but all I know is what Martin told me. And I totally trust Martin with my
life, and my soul and everything else, so. He said it’s going to help repair any DNA damage and fix things
up. And so my second story is, for the last seven or eight or nine years I’ve had sore knees. And it’s not
unusual for people my age to have sore knees. One of my knees, it’s like a needle sticking in it sometimes
when I’m walking, when I’m going uphill or when I’m going downhill.

SCOTT: And to my shock and amazement, I walk pain free. And I don’t know if it’s walking along the beaches and
grounding in the last six months. <Laugh>.

MARTIN: That helps. It helps. Absolutely.

SCOTT: Feeling the salt water against my ankles and stuff, and the odd big wave that I misjudge hitting my knees
and splashing on them. But I think between the Nano Soma and the Lazarus, that whatever’s going on
with my knees is really improved it. Like I just can’t believe I’m walking and I’m not, and of course these
are things that you don’t think about. Unless you really stop and say, okay what were my knees like, two
years ago? Oh yeah. Like, I remember that was really painful going up that hill or going down that hill
because it just happens and then you just think, oh yeah my knees are fine.

SCOTT: I don’t even think about it. And then you don’t realize what you’ve got. Yeah. <Affirmative> I’m really,
really grateful for these two products. I think there could be other ones that like the Turmeric, the squirty
turmeric thing. Yeah.<affirmative> But these are the two that I’m going to blame. Yeah. <affirmative> I
can put it that way, because I really feel like they have made a total difference. And to the point, where
I’m staying right now, a very good friend of mine has had stem cell injections. And I was telling her about
my knees and she says, oh yeah! This would be perfect, you get the stem cells into your knees. And so I
was looking into it and all the rest of it, and to be quite honest, I want to be as natural and organic and
unpruned as possible. <laugh>. Right? Like, I don’t want people sticking stuff into me if I can avoid it.

MARTIN: Well, the stem cell thing is not a bad idea. It’s quite ecological, but it’s about $6,000. I don’t know if she
mentioned that.

SCOTT: Oh, where she goes it’s closer to 10 or 20, but I mean, it’s still, okay,

MARTIN: Well then each, right? Six each. The sets 12. Right?

SCOTT: Right. Yeah, yeah. Each time you do it. And I would rather just spend the money on Lazarus and Nano
Soma and not have to do that.

MARTIN: There’s one other thing that I wish that I knew about your friend and his hole in the foot. We do have a
product under the skin sorcery label, called Trauma Gel. And Trauma Gel is actually helping people who
have these unhealed openings to heal over and clear. I mean, we’ve had a guy with a hole this big size of
a half dollar on the bottom of his foot. And two months later, it’s healed over. Not two years, right? And
these people especially with diabetes, they do have a horrendous time with healing. They don’t heal
well.

SCOTT: I’ll tell them, I’ll tell them. And I’m glad you brought that up. Trauma gel is one of the most important things
I have with me when I travel, because if you get a scrape or a scratch or whatever, you’re in a foreign
environment, who knows. And so I’m constantly putting it on small holes, <laugh> or on my legs, and
mosquito bites and all the rest of it. And once it had got to the point where it had kind of healed over,
then I started putting it on my back. Right.

MARTIN: Yeah. Your spider wound is what now? A scar about four inches long kind of thing?

SCOTT: Yeah. Yeah.

MARTIN: That’s what killed Jevari. You know, Jevari had a spider bite.

SCOTT: Oh, I didn’t know that.

MARTIN: Oh, yeah. Which that evolved into this something that was the size of an avocado under his skin. And it
didn’t get treated right, instead of lancing it and sucking it out, the doctors squeezed it. But in the
process of squeezing it, it actually burped back into the body rather than out of the body. So he now had
circulating poisons and the after effect of the poisons, and then he developed a flesh eating
staphylococcal. When staphylococcal gets inside you, rather than just on the surface that’s known as the
flesh eating disease. Once that was inside him, they were going to amputate his leg. And then they know
they put him on crazy antibiotics, mm-hmm. <affirmative> and Cipro is one of them that they used, and
that unfortunately has many side effects. And in his case, it killed his kidneys and his pancreas.

MARTIN: I was very lucky then, because one of the things that the surgeon said is that we took out a lot of flesh
because it just looked like it was being eaten.

MARTIN: That was necrosis. Yeah, it was necrosis.

SCOTT: Yeah. So they just took a big slice and they just scraped it out. Yep.<affirmative> It was really weird going
under, I think that was the only time I’ve ever gone, you know, they put you on gas and then you’re just
out. Right. And it’s kind of like, yeah, yeah just sort of breathe normally. I say okay, when is this gonna
happen? And the next thing I know, it’s over and I’m awake and they’re done. <laugh>

MARTIN: You’re waking up from the narcosis. Yep. <affirmative>

SCOTT: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, Martin. Just wanted to say thank you very much. It was American
Thanksgiving just a week or two ago, and the work that you’re doing with Lazarus and the other products
that you have in your store from the…

MARTIN: So here you are telling a story of humanity and how fragile we are, and how thin the interface is
between, I’m doing okay and I’m doing not okay. And I’m going to probably die. Like this could have been
a terminal event for you.

SCOTT: Yeah, absolutely.

MARTIN: Yeah. But for some reason, your mission is not done, thank God.

SCOTT: <laugh> I think this is the reason. That’s just me.

MARTIN: Okay. That’s cool. And so your story of venoms reminds me of course, of the recent discoveries of the
alternative health practitioners who have finally figured out that thing that came at us from Wuhan
China, that has been so popular with the scare mongers of the world, has not been a natural thing. It has
been developed in a lab, in a military operation. And most of the things that come with it are in fact
peptides, that are copies of what’s in these toxic elements. They’re called venoms. And these venoms
are from spiders, from snakes, and from cone shells, which are toxic or poisonous under the sea
creatures.

SCOTT: Mm-hmm. <affirmative>

MARTIN: And so these things are now distributed either through the aerosolized transmission of the thing that we
would call natural, which is in the wild. Or are being injected through this, what they call mRNA
messenger or ribonucleic acid. And what’s happening with that then, is we’re transmitting venoms from
one person to another. And so your example of course, getting a super high dose shows just how sick you
can get.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Well, turns out that many people are now getting significantly affected by these things because these
venoms are accumulating in your brain, your sex organs and your heart and your gut, your kidneys can
overcome it. It does accumulate in the kidneys, but the kidneys actually somehow neutralize it. So it
turns out that the natural antidote, gross as it may seem, is taking some of your own urine and recycling
it back because it has in it the antidotes that you need.

SCOTT: Right. And it’s not just for this, we’ve talked about urine before and how people can use it to heal
themselves.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. It’s a homeopathic messenger that tells you, or tells the rest of your body what it needs to
know.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: So you just pee into a glass and have a sip? Yeah. <affirmative> You have to drink like two liters of it, or…?

MARTIN: No, no, no. Just a small amount, just I don’t know, a shot glass, one or two ounces. But what’s interesting
is that it’s more palatable when cold.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: So you can just collect it and refrigerate it and use it that way.

SCOTT: Oh, okay.

MARTIN: It’s something that I’m having a hard time with. It’s a cultural thing, but…

SCOTT: It is very much a cultural thing. Yeah. These sort of things take time, a little bit of dedication and being
around people that are also doing it, I think helps. Yeah. <affirmative> And the reason that I say that is in
many places in Central and South America, you don’t flush the toilet down the toilet. Toilet paper, I
mean, right? So you do your business in the toilet, you wipe yourself, now you’ve got this piece of toilet
paper with a whole bunch of stuff on it that you don’t really wanna talk about, and you put it in a small
garbage can beside the toilet because the paper will clog up and no one will be able to flush the toilet.
And so I know some people that have, there’s been a few places I’ve been where I said, like, do you or
don’t you? And they say, oh well, we’re supposed to not, but we do because we just can’t get over it.
<laugh> Yeah. Whereas after five years of being in Central and South America, doesn’t matter to me at
all. In fact, if I keep looking, and the question is, should I or shouldn’t I? And if I’m not sure well, I don’t
want to insult my host by leaving a pile of soiled toilet paper in the garbage <laugh>.

MARTIN: However, it’s the sign of caring that you’re not clogging his toilet.

SCOTT: <laugh>. Exactly. Exactly. But I agree with you, like the idea of drinking my own urine is, makes me ready
to just sort of, I feel nauseous, just thinking about it.

MARTIN: It’s a bit of a gag. Yeah.

MARTIN: Yeah. And just start slow. Which reminds me, so here is today’s quiz, question of the day. What is Maca
good for? M A C A.

MARTIN: Well, Maca is a metabolic stimulant, right? Maca grows in very high elevation, 14,000 feet. It has within it
the resilience of having to overcome the harshness of that environment. So with it comes the message of
increasing resilience. So when it raises your resilience and metabolic capacity, all things function better.
So of course, it’s typically known to raise your virility, ability to perform sexually. But it also raises your
metabolic and athletic ability.

SCOTT: So if you want to exercise more and lose weight, it’s a good thing to take.

MARTIN: Yeah, definitely that.

SCOTT: Okay. So one of the things that happens folks, is when I go to the Life Enthusiast website, and I just
started doing this actually, is you have a wish list. A function of a wish list, you see something you like,
you can hit the heart and it’ll go into your wishlist, and then you don’t have to search for it ever again. So
I’ve only known and been around the Life Enthusiast website for 15 or 17 years, and in the last six
months I thought, why am I always searching for the stuff I want? And then I never remember all the
stuff I want. Why don’t I just like, make the wishlist? So I started making the wishlist, and one of the
things that happens then is I look through the wishlist, and I’m looking for Lazarus and Nano Soma for
sure. And then what else do I kind of want?

SCOTT: And you’ve got a line of just absolutely amazing herbal extracts. And Maca is one of them. So I just
ordered it, and this is not thinking I need it because of this, that, or the other thing. This is really kind of
a feeling thing. Like if you ask me why, I couldn’t answer you why, but I just really wanted it. The delivery
was to this place, I’ve been here like two days. So the last two days I’ve had this little bottle of Maca. And
I have to tell you Martin, it tastes like horse piss to me. <laugh> Not having ever tasted horse piss, but I
think it tastes like horse piss.

MARTIN: It’s horrible. <Laugh>.

SCOTT: It is. Yeah! It’s just got that, where’s the donkey, pissing on me? Right. But there was something in my
body that said, we need this maca stuff. Right. <affirmative>

SCOTT: And so every once in a while, it’s been, I think probably over a year since I’ve had had a bottle of it. I just
feel like, and there’s a few other ones I don’t recall off the top of my head that every once in a while I go,
yeah I need to get this. Not I need to get this, It’s kind of like, you know, the craving for ice cream? Yeah.
<affirmative> Oh, it’s eight o’clock at night, I need to have a bowl of ice cream, or a cookie or something.
Well, it’s like way subtler than that, but it’s just that little voice. It says, you know what you need to have.

MARTIN: It’s a little nag, a little nudge.

SCOTT: Yeah. A little nag, a little nudge. And so yeah, I got nagged, I got nudged, and I got it. And I’m happy that I
got it.

MARTIN: Well, you work stronger, I don’t know what. Stay up late, abuse yourself a little more.

SCOTT: So don’t take it like two hours before bed or I’ll be buzzed. You want to take it earlier in the day, right?

MARTIN: Yeah, for sure.

SCOTT: I learned that with, Iridesca is a stimulant too, right?

MARTIN: Yes, it is. It will keep you awake.

SCOTT: Yeah. When I was in Coquitlam, it’d be like eight o’clock, I’d be kind of tired. And I wasn’t thinking about
being stimulated. I was just thinking, I’m going to have my Exsula product before I go to bed, and then
it’d be two in the morning, and I would be like wide awake from like, when I drank it till two in the
morning. And working away like crazy, and then going to bed and getting up at six. It’s just insane! So
make sure that you check with Martin, when the best time to take it is because you don’t, you want to
take stuff that gets you a good night’s sleep, because ten to two is when you’re circadian rhythm jumps
in and you want to do all your healing.

MARTIN: Here’s the one you would want to take in the evening. (Shows bottle of Aurasil to the camera)

SCOTT: AuraSil.

MARTIN: Or all the other green ones. We have the Excela-50, or we have the AuraGreens, but they are based on
green things, and chlorophyll is the para-sympathizing nutrient. So it activates the rest, repair, digest, the
parasympathetic side. Oh, okay. <affirmative> It’ll allow the restful phase of our existence, rather than
the stimulated side of being. Cool. <affirmative> So when you’re ready to shut it down, take the green
ones. When you’re ready to fire it up, take the purple ones.

SCOTT: <laugh>. Okay. Oh, so one last thing, actually, two last things. Remind me about spoons if I forget the
spoon story. Okay, now this tastes good. (Shows bottle of Lazarus to the camera) Yes. <affirmative>If
you’ve tasted Iridesca, I describe it as drinking mud, <Laugh> it just does. And it’s exactly, if you got some
mud, put it in a glass and drank it, you would probably say it tastes better than Iridesca. But Iridesca
works, that’s the important thing. Yeah. <affirmative> But this has a great blueberry taste, and it tastes
delicious. Yeah. <affirmative> And Martin and I have obviously have had lots of conversations about lots
of products, and I have my own opinions on what he should be doing and what he shouldn’t be doing.
And before this came out, I was Iridesca, Iridesca, and Strata-Flora mostly, and they always had spoons in
them. And I said to him, they’re plastic spoons! The environment, get rid of the spoons. And he said, no,
people don’t know what size of spoon and should I use a spoon or what? So we put the spoon in as a
convenience for our customers, and blah, blah, blah. And I go yeah, well okay. It’s your business., do
whatever you want. There’s no spoon in this. Martin, and I miss the spoon.

MARTIN: I put my foot down and I said, we’re done with the spoons. And there is no chance that there is no spoon
in the kitchen drawer where you are going to use this. Find the spoon in the drawer.

SCOTT: I’m in a hotel room. I’m in a hotel room, and there’s nothing. There’s just a glass and some water and
this. And it’s like, I got no spoon!

MARTIN: Oh my god.

SCOTT: I just poured it. So anyway, I had to laugh because here I am telling you, no spoon, no spoon, no spoon,
for years! <laugh> Oh man. <affirmative> It’s like, oh there’s no spoon!

MARTIN: I just cannot win. <Laugh>. I just cannot win.

SCOTT: But I have to tell you that you can actually pour it slowly, like it doesn’t come streaming out or anything.
And that’s what I ended up doing for two days. As I would just watch it clearly, pop, so it’s not exactly a
spoon. Yeah.<affirmative> I mean, it was never exactly a spoon full before anyway. One of the things I
love about all the Exsula products is you can just stir it and it’ll mix in. Unlike when you get a lot of these
chalky powdered protein drinks where you need a blender to actually get it to work.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: So that’s really cool.

MARTIN: So that’s a fairly long commercial, but thank you.

SCOTT: <laugh>. But wait, there’s more.

MARTIN: There is. And so, I wanted to do a recap, and I wanted to do a look forward as it relates to the astrology,
because I have been using these talks..

SCOTT: Oh, yeah. You keep telling me about what’s happening in the new year based on where Saturn and
Jupiter are.

MARTIN: And stuff like that. And so I’ve been…

SCOTT: Stuff like that.

SCOTT: I feel like I have recapped the year. There’s been a lot of health problems, a lot of sickness. And for me,
this has been a major help.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: And I’m looking forward to a strong, healthy 2023 now that I’ve got all this stuff behind me.

MARTIN: Yep. You probably will be. And for the last many years, since 2008, we’ve been talking about Pluto and
Capricorn and how it’s dealing with the societal things, right? Because Pluto is the principle of
transformation and the evolutionary forces and transformative forces of life and death. Right? Pluto is
actually killing that which needs to die so that it can be reborn. The principle of the phoenix, right? Being
reborn from the flames. And so in Capricorn, that is coming to a close now. It’s about transformation of
social structures, of corporations, of authority, of established hierarchies, and all of that is just almost
cooked up. So what happens is the following, Pluto is leaving Capricorn in March of 23, 23rd of March,
and then it goes back in June, and then it leaves for good into Capricorn in June 2023, sorry on January
2024.

MARTIN: So what I’m trying to say here is we now have the last three months of the full stay of Pluto and
Capricorn. So focusing on corporations, authorities, social structures, established hierarchies, this is the
crescendo. And then when we sneak out for three months between March and June, we are going to get
a glimpse of Aquarius, and then it’s all going to finish up. So 2023 is about cleaning up this whole thing
about the social structures and authority and hierarchy and all of that. So I reckon that we might not see,
it tends to leave nothing standing. That the best metaphor for Pluto I have is your sifting the ashes of
your burnt down buildings for the nails that are left behind.

SCOTT: So all these super authoritarian people are going to be moving on?

MARTIN: It’s definitely now coming to ahead. This is the time. So I don’t know whether it’s all going to go for the la
la la force of good democracy wins, or if it’s going to be, oh shoot we are all now stuck in a fascist
communist authoritarian hell of…

SCOTT: Super control

MARTIN: 1984 style as George Orwell would put it. Right. <affirmative> Big brother misery. However.

SCOTT: So there’s either gonna be a new hope or the empire’s going to strike back.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. And so now this first glimpse into Pluto in Aquarius is going to be transformation of the rules
and the social norms that hold the society together. Mmmm <affirmative> Ideas about humanity, how
we use science, how we use technology. Is technology in fact the thing that is something we should trust
or rely upon, right? Right. <affirmative> So we’re going to be seeing now..

SCOTT: I can totally see that. I can totally see a huge rejection of technology, because it has been used for such
evil in the past few years. Yep. <affirmative> Going past, not just the last two years, but even going, you
know, beyond that. But we’re also seeing, like Elon Musk and Twitter, who knows how that’s all gonna
shake out. But he’s basically come out and said, well you know, they were censoring the other side, there
was one side, that they were on, and if you were on the other side, they were censoring you like crazy.
And we know Facebook and YouTube were banning people for people who were against..

MARTIN: Oh, they’re totally in the pocket of the rulers, the controllers, those who want to promote their
narrative. I mean to outline it, right. Money in politics is the thing number one. Here’s how it happens.
Yep. <affirmative> When you have money, you can buy lobbying. And with lobbying you can buy
influence. And because people in politics are wanting to be reelected, they go begging for money
because they need to campaign. This is the screw up that we have created. Is that right? Instead of
having public money or no money or whatever.

SCOTT: Well, and now with technology, you could have Zoom meetings and people could just tune into your
Zoom meetings and ask questions, and you can reach everybody almost free.

MARTIN: Yes. That part. But you still are wanting to get money from people who have money, and instead of
raising it $5 at a time from and everybody, you just go for the whale. And you want to raise yourself a big
chunk of money, and you become beholden to that benefactor because you will want to go back to
them.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Right? Right. <affirmative> And because of the promise of, I’ll do this again. Then you want to do what
they would want you to do.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: So if your benefactor is the people with money, and they’re the pharmaceutical companies, then you will
write the stuff and vote for the stuff that does not cross them. And the same thing happens in the
media, because the pharmaceutical companies are the biggest advertiser in a non-election year. Then
the station manager and the owner of the media will say, you cannot put this report out. That’s going to
upset them, because they would stop advertising here, so it doesn’t even get out. So we have these
parrots going, safe and effective, safe and effective. And yet it’s nothing like that. It’s neither safe nor
effective. That’s right.<affirmative> It’s been proven in court of law that it damages people. And it’s been
proven by statistics in science that it doesn’t do much like the one that was sold to us as 95% effective.
That’s a relative benefit. The absolute benefit was 0.86%, meaning…

SCOTT: You got to love statistics. Right? You can make numbers mean whatever you want.

MARTIN: Yeah. Right. Lie with numbers.

SCOTT: Lie with numbers. So true.

MARTIN: Okay. So, you know, money in politics is the issue. Money in economy is the issue, and the solution really
is to vote with your wallet. Wherever you spend your money is the oxygen of the economy. So whatever
you support, whatever you buy, whatever you send money to, is going to grow. And that which you will
not is going to wither. So be very careful with your wallet, because whatever you spend money with or
on is what you’re voting for.

SCOTT: Yep. And uh..

MARTIN: But anyway, so I wanted to go back. Yeah. I wanted to go back to this. Yeah. I wanted to go back to this
thing, which the line is this: We may see an uprising and a rebellion against the oppression that has
taken hold in some parts of the world under Capricorn. We need a new vision of society and in the
future, and what works for people and the planet as a whole. So, under Pluto, in Aquarius, we can expect
social and technological revolutions. And I’ll give you some examples. What happened in the world when
Pluto was in Capricorn, Pluto was in Aquarius previously, so that’s what’s the piece.

SCOTT: Yes. Let’s look at history and see if it repeats.

MARTIN: It was the year 312 when Constantine, accepted Christianity. There was one thing. The next time, it was
in 1286 to 1308, all the cathedral building, but also the English common law was codified. Or the next
time, 1532 to 1553, Henry vii Anglicans in France, the Protestants in science. Copernicus came out in 48
and said, the system is heliocentric, but also Machiavelli put out the book Prince, right? Showing how
you can enslave the world. And then the next one, 1777 to 1797, you’re looking at the edge, right? 1776,
it was still in Capricorn. 1777, it went into Aquarius. United States was born. The Constitution in the
middle of it, 1789 Bastille Day, French peasants just totally over overthrew the rulers.

SCOTT: The king of France. Yeah. <affirmative> Marie-Antoinette.

MARTIN:
The revolution got going in those years. Right? Right.<affirmative> Catherine the great in Russia,
instituting reforms. Ending of the, what are they called? There was the regime of the feudal society where a villager was actually bound to the village, right? And you owned the village and all the people in it, so that that rule was abolished. So people were free to move anywhere they wanted to go.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: But there will be no sudden shift into a liberal and progressive paradise of freedom and equality, like
we’re going to have to work for it.

SCOTT: You’re such a pessimist.

MARTIN: No, no, no, no, no. Nothing’s given free. You have to work for it. Like there will be new ideas coming in,
and we have to work together and we have to work collaboratively and in friendship, and we have to
work, you know, you cannot ask for freedom. That’s sort of like sheep asking the wolf to let them go.

SCOTT: Right. Not gonna happen.

MARTIN: No. Yeah. There needs to be, I don’t know, a stampede <laugh>. So there will be increase in the desire
for reform.

SCOTT: So around the world Martin, we’re seeing that. You talked about stampedes, you know. Mm-hmm.
<affirmative> In Canada, we have the trucker convoy.

MARTIN: Yeah. They got restless. Yeah.

SCOTT: Yeah. We have the trucker convoy that happened in the United States as well, that didn’t get quite the
same type of publicity, but throughout Europe and now in Brazil with their latest election, you’ve got
millions and millions of people that are out on the street demanding change. Yeah.<affirmative> Or
saying, you know, we don’t accept this the way it is. Yeah.<affirmative> Like, you’ve got to change.

MARTIN: Yeah. And this has to do with Saturn in Aquarius. Saturn is a planet of realism or a reality of hard facts
and whatever. And it has been in Aquarius, but it’s now ending. Saturn was out and is returning to
Aquarius on 17th of December, and we’ll be there until March 7th, 2023. Last time Saturn was in,
Aquarius was in 1991 to 1993. Russia fell part, the whole communist experiment went to hell and all of
that. So we stand a chance then, in these next three or four months, we’re going to see this blown out.
Because Saturn in Aquarius will build new structures, bring people together, exchange visionary ideas,
humanitarian values, and also massive innovations in science and technology and changes in political
systems around the world. Right?

SCOTT: Nice. Nice.

MARTIN: So this is a big deal. We stand a chance of it happening. Please. <Laugh>.

SCOTT: Yeah, yeah.

MARTIN: Right?

SCOTT: We need our freedoms back.

MARTIN: So we need to be unafraid to step up and ask, and not just ask, but act.

SCOTT: And demand.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. Well, when we get…

SCOTT: The government is supposed to be the servant of the people, and right now the government is acting like
the people are its servants.

MARTIN: Yeah, exactly. That is correct. So the slave has upper hand over the ruler by refusing to comply.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: I mean, this happened in the unionization movement, right? Back in, I don’t know, 1910, 1920, there
abouts. When the workers got together and unionized and said, nope, you do not get to treat us like
whatever you treated us. Right. <affirmative> And the only tool they have is that they can lay down tools.
Right? Right. <affirmative> They refuse the service.

SCOTT: Yeah. And there’s an interesting thing about that idea laying down the tools and not complying versus
rioting. Because I’m absolutely convinced that the powers that be are quite happy if you riot. Because it
gives them an excuse to send in guns and police and tear gas and cause all sorts of havoc and beatings
and everything else. But when you just stand there and don’t do anything.

MARTIN: Yeah. This is where Gandhi had it figured out. Right? Right.<affirmative> Peaceful resistance with dignity.
Yeah.<affirmative> No, you can’t make me.

SCOTT: Yeah. And yeah.

MARTIN: No, I’m not going to wash your toilet. No I’m not going to feed your children. Go do it yourself.

SCOTT: Yep.

MARTIN: Right.

SCOTT: And I think that was a major reason why there was so little violence in Ottawa during the trucker’s
convoy, was the people were there very clear in their purpose, in their mission and in their desire for
peace. And that they weren’t there to destroy, unlike the previous summer in the United States, a
number of cities were just burning to the ground practically. It seemed, anyway, you know, and of course
that was a totally different type of protest.

MARTIN: Yeah. That was a movement. Well, yeah, I don’t even want to label it. The way I understand it, it was
largely supported by the shadowy movers behind the scenes fermenting that thing. Right? As you said it,
you said it correctly, it really suits the ruler really well when there is a conflagration because they can
step in and just say, the only way we can deal with this is to put out the flames.

SCOTT: Honestly. Yeah. Meet violence with violence. Yeah.<affirmative>

SCOTT: They don’t know what to do. They really don’t know what to do when you’re just sitting there. I mean,
they’ll take a few people, there’s always sacrificial lambs. They’ll take a few people and put ’em in jail and
I’m sure they’ll beat a few people, but they can’t beat 10,000 people standing there doing nothing. Yeah.
<affirmative>

MARTIN: This is how East Germany collapsed. I think it was 1989, where previously the East Germans were
somewhat compliant and just putting up with it. But in the summer of 89, they’d had enough and they
started leaving by the tens of thousands. They just climbed into their little Trabant cars and stared
driving into Hungary. And Hungary had so many people at the border with Austria, they said: “The heck
with it! You can go, we don’t care. You’re not our citizens leave!” They just opened it up.

SCOTT: Oh. I didn’t know that.

MARTIN: Yeah. In Czech Republic, in Prague. The German embassy, which I was at, I visited it. I mean, I know it
well. Is a compound, that’s something like maybe two acres. There were 2000 people in there, it was
unbelievable. And they would pull up one another over the wall. The wall is something like 10 feet high
wall. So you need to lean down and grab the person by the hand and hoist them up over the wall into
the compound. Wow. <affirmative> And of course, the embassy is a sovereign territory of the other
country, right? So the West Germany had the thousands and thousands of these East Germans staying
there, they couldn’t leave. Right. <affirmative> But they were on the sovereign soil of the “Free
Germany.” So eventually it all just opened up and it collapsed, and the rest is history, right? The Berlin
wall was canceled and checkpoint Charlie was opened and then was it. And I reckon that something like
that is coming for this vaccination doctrine. I think something like this is coming for the gaslighting
censorship doctrine. Yeah. <affirmative> All of this will eventually be revealed and be served up as lies.
Just lies.

SCOTT: Yeah. It seems to be happening like right now. There’s different news that I’ve seen. Well, I’ve actually
been shocked at the Canadian media, because they have, a lot of them in my opinion, well maybe I
should say some of them. But like the National Post, and even the CBC are running things that are very
critical of the government and of the leadership in the government. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And I’m
just like, wow. I just, I’m shocked because after two years of just saying whatever the government said
was right, they’re now starting to question things. And CNN they’ve had a major coup. There’s a new
president or whatever, and he’s been firing a ton of people who are very political in their opinions and
they let that into the news. And he’s on the record of saying, we want to be a news company, not a arm
of a political part of the country.

MARTIN: Yeah.

MARTIN: And this is going to be the difficult thing for them, because of course, what’s his name? The Vanderbuilt
boy, I can’t think of his name. <laugh>. Oh man. Oh, the silver haired announcer. Can you think of this
word? Oh, well it doesn’t matter. Anyway, the sponsor of his program is Pfizer.

SCOTT: Right. All of their sponsors are Pfizer’s. And I mean, there’s so many shows, it’s Pfizer. And they seem to,
hopefully they’re willing to say, you know what? This was what we’re gonna do. If you want to be part of
the sponsorship, go ahead. If not, we’ll find someone else. And it all comes down to money.

MARTIN: It’s going to be challenging for them, right? Because of course it takes money to run this show. Right. So
if you lose your…

SCOTT: That’s the interesting thing too though, right? Like, so here’s an example. I’m going to sponsor Life
Enthusiast. I happen to have a billion dollars, so I’m going to give you a million dollars a year as a
sponsorship. What are you going to do? You’re going to say, wow, I can buy a bigger house. I can buy a
bigger car. I can hire 3000 people and pay them twice as much as I was paying them before. So you stick
yourself into a corner where you need the sponsorship, right? Yep.<affirmative> I think whereas if you
now all of a sudden the sponsorship goes, what do you do? Well, you say to everybody, like we don’t
have any money, and a bunch of you have to leave and hopefully some of you will go back to your old
wages. And if you can’t, then I guess I’ll just have to replace you and retrain somebody else.

SCOTT: And so you have in this whole media TV world, what athlete is worth 200 million dollars a year in
basketball? But they get paid that. Right. Why do they get paid that? Well, they get paid that because the
revenues are so high that nobody cares that they get 200 million. Right? Yeah.<affirmative> Well, what if
the revenues drop to 1%? Now he gets 2 million. Well, is he really that much worse off? Well, yeah he’s
probably gonna be, he ‘s spoiled and everything else, but you know, sorry, there’s nobody willing to pay
you 200 million anymore. And so I think that whole, well we can’t afford it, is all because you’re paying
$10,000 an hour for a cameraman when you could pay him a hundred bucks an hour. But because you
had all this Pfizer money, you have this wage inflation going o, right? Do they need to live in a house
that’s got 25 bedrooms? I don’t think so. Right. So this whole money thing..

MARTIN: I don’t know if you’re right about that as far as the scope of it that you’re suggesting. I don’t think that
they live that richly, but yes, they do get superstar status.

SCOTT: There are people. Yeah, there are people, I mean I just think it’s crazy in baseball and basketball when
you hear, oh The Blue Jay’s signed this guy and he looks like, what? Why are they paying that guy that
much to hit a ball? Right? Like, I don’t mind being paid well, but these are stupid numbers.

MARTIN: Yeah. I think it has to do with the revenue that the fellow is able to generate or help generate.

SCOTT: Right. I mean, well yeah, everyone comes. But in a lot of cases, like the Vancouver connects, right? I
mean, they haven’t won anything in ever, and they’re usually having a bad losing season and they’re still
full. Right? Rogers still pays them a fortune to show the games on tv and they don’t have the playoff
revenue. And that’s sad. So I just think that you can, we’re going to be going into a deflationary period,
because one of the things that they’re going to have to say is, Pfizer you can’t sponsor everything. Right?
You’ve got all this money and you can’t get away with gouging the public by charging a hundred dollars
for a pill.

MARTIN: Well, that’s an interesting one, right? So Pfizer is standing to make billions because they have created
this environment in which they separated the customer from the payer.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: The government is paying, they’re paying $80 for a vaccine that they call a vaccine. Which is actually not,
mRNA shot, $80 for free to everybody because we are in panic. We are just dying without it. No, we’re
not. But the hysteria!

SCOTT: What happens is the health authorities, the government health authorities, the bureaucrats, are in their
pocket. I mean, they’re going to go and get hired by Pfizer or some other company when they decide
they don’t want to work for the government anymore. And so you’ve kind of, it’s the same thing with
education, right? Why are all these people having a hundred thousand dollars student debts loans, right.
Or a hundred thousand dollars debt, student loans. Well, it’s because they go to the college, the college
says you can go for three years, don’t worry about it. We’re going to be able to sign a loan. These people
couldn’t get a house loan, but they can get a student loan. So what’s that all about? Right? And because
you’ve got the student loan, it’s oh don’t worry! It’s a couple hundred bucks a month for 10 or 20 years,
you’ll be fine. You’ll make so much more money in your job, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

SCOTT: So what happens then is tuitions go up, they pay the professors’ exorbitant amounts of money.
Yeah.<affirmative> It’s the same thing happening there that’s happening in the medical, and it’s just like
super inflation, hyperinflation in education that’s just totally unreasonable. It’s because it’s like, ah you
don’t have to pay, you know, $2,000 to go for a semester. Maybe we’ll give you a loan and we’ll charge
you 10. And so that sort of thing, someone just has to say like, that’s it. You’re not doing that anymore
and bring it all down to reality. You know? And the thing about the pills is Pfizer will charge at 200 bucks
for a pill in the United States, and they’ll charge 10 cents for the same pill in India. So you know, yeah.
They can’t afford it.

MARTIN: Yeah. The carrying cost. Can we afford to pay? Yes.

SCOTT: Yeah. And who’s negotiating it? Who’s the person that’s negotiating it for the US government is almost
on, or was on Pfizer’s payroll. And we’re picking on Pfizer, but it applies to all of them. Right?

MARTIN: That is the point. That is the very point. But this is very similar to the dictators in Africa where a world
monetary fund comes in and says, listen what we need is we need you to borrow several billion dollars.
We’ll pay you a fat fee against the resources of your country. And if you happen to default on the
payments, we’ll just take the resources. Don’t worry about it. Right? Right. Yeah.<affirmative> And so the
dictator…

SCOTT: They get a nice palace to live in for 10 years until the people revolt because their starving.

MARTIN: They move to Switzerland or whatever. And then the country has been impoverished and the resources
have been taken away by the bankers. Yep.<affirmative> All good.

SCOTT: Or China, China’s building infrastructure like crazy. Yep. <affirmative>

MARTIN: And again, on the same principle, if you can’t pay, we own it.

SCOTT: Yep. And they’ve taken over, I think the Port of Mombasa recently because of it.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yep. Well.

SCOTT: It’s actually really weird cause I was there, and I had saw they built a railway from Mombasa to Nairobi.
Yeah. <affirmative>That is incompatible with all the railways that are there. So in other words, whatever
the gauge is, it was a different gauge. And could they have made it the same gauge? I don’t know.
Probably.

MARTIN: Of course they could.

SCOTT: But you know, it goes from the port into the city, into the warehouse and that sort of stuff. And I was at
the terminal, it’s a beautiful big terminal. What blew my mind was all the employees were Chinese.

MARTIN: Oh. So, they made no one wealthy?

SCOTT: Except their own people. Right? Yes. <affirmative> So if you’re gonna build this port, then hire local
people so we can put the money into the local economy. But that even wasn’t happening, they didn’t. I
mean, you don’t see many Chinese people in Mombasa and there they all were working at the, not at
the port, I wasn’t at the port, but at the main railway station. Yeah.<affirmative> That everything goes
through that they built. It’s amazing. And of course it was almost impossible to get to, because they
didn’t care. Right? I mean, the purpose was to get stuff off the boat onto the railway tracks and into
Nairobi and around Africa. So the fact that if you wanted to be on the train, no problem. But you had to
be on this, it was a two-lane road that was basically not moving because there was just too much traffic
for the size of the road and didn’t matter if it was five in the morning or five in the afternoon, it was just
packed. And I’m like, what’s going on? Right.

MARTIN: Yeah. So these examples, right? So I would like to sort of circle back to the closing of this, which is, I’m
promising the audience that we are now going to see a short crescendo all the way up to end of March,
of this Saturn energy that’s going to help us reform. And if we pull it off, then great. If we don’t pull it off,
then sleepy time.

SCOTT: We’re going to be stuck with this till the next time. That’s 200 years from now.
MARTIN: Well the revolution of thinking is coming, right? The general consciousness of as I outlined it, is changing
our attitude toward technology especially is coming. We are going to be reevaluating. I mean, I have,
well you’ve known it about me. I’m not a technology, what’s the word? Defender. Especially when it
comes to health. I believe nature and natural is better than technological. Like we should be growing
healthy food instead of subsidizing or supplementing. And we should be taking a natural thing that grows
in nature instead of a chemical thing. And we shouldn’t be injecting something to defend us because
we’re imperfect. The design is perfect, the design itself is divine. We do not need an engineer to make it
right.

SCOTT: Yeah.

MARTIN: Anyway, so I’m hoping that humanity as the whole will come to understand that. To realize that and to
act on that.

SCOTT: Here, here. I’m hoping that’s the case too. And I think it is. I think that a lot of people are moving that
way.

MARTIN: Yes. Well, we’re watching the riots in China. I wonder how it goes. I mean as we’re recording this, people
have been just completely had enough. Acting out. Right? Had enough. Yeah. You can put the pressure
on this thing only so much until it just blows back. Right? It reacts.

SCOTT: That’s right. That’s right.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, let’s hope it’s blowing up for better.

SCOTT: We’re in for an exciting new year.

MARTIN: Yeah. Alright, Scott. I hope that when we’re talking in 12 months from now, we would have different
perspectives.

SCOTT: Oh, hopefully it’ll be a joyous conversation about how far the world has come in such a short period of
time.

MARTIN: I surely hope so. Anyway, I thank you so much for being here.

SCOTT: My pleasure, Martin.

MARTIN: Sharing your wisdom and your understanding. And I’d have 20 other things that I’d like to talk about, but
I don’t know if we can squeeze it all in.

SCOTT: Well bring up one of them and let’s talk about it.

MARTIN: Well, I see you’re doing good works. In helping independent entrepreneurs in the developing world to
earn a better living.

SCOTT: Oh, thank you. Yeah. <laugh>. Well yeah, we’ve made a start. I was hoping to teach them to start their
own businesses, but it’s worked out that it’s more about connecting them with clients that like, and love
and respect them and have good work for them to do. And the reason we’ve been successful is the
quality of the people that we’ve been able to match together on both sides and some of which now are
working with you, which I’m really pleased about.

MARTIN: Yeah. Yeah. We’re doing okay. It’s yeah, these people are being paid better than they would be
otherwise, and to us it’s at an advantage. So I’m quite pleased with that. Yeah.

SCOTT: Yeah. Yeah. They’re helping their families and a lot of them are putting in the money towards food in
their community for those that are less fortunate and they’re able to have a good roof over their head
and yeah. So it’s really helping not just them, but also there’s always that spin off, right? Helps the
community as well.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: So we’re making a difference, and hopefully it’ll continue to happen going forward.

MARTIN: Yeah. What would you have hoped that I should have asked you?

SCOTT: I had no expectation. I just came here to be with you.

MARTIN: Yeah. What did you want to talk about, if anything? What’s on your mind? What’s brewing?

SCOTT: The only, the biggest question I have is if someone has taken the vaccine and they have problems, what
should they do? Well actually, I always think about our fibromyalgia Facebook group, over 80,000
people, and it’s really sad that so many of them are just identifying with their illness and they’re not
really willing to take a look at anything that would improve them. And then some of them are just so
poor that they can’t afford something like this and they can’t afford even something else like vitamin C
probably. I mean, there’s some people that are really, really desperate that way, but a lot of them aren’t.
They just seem to have this closed mind. And I often wonder if the things, I mean, there’s so many
different stories and there’s so many different aches and pains that it just tells me everybody is different.
Everybody gets these autoimmune diseases appear differently, and we have a lot of talk going around
about different myocarditis and different problems that people have from this experimental gene
therapy that they’ve been taking for the last couple years. But I often wonder if the complaints that
people have afterwards aren’t really, like the same as the complaints that a lot, not all, but enough of
them are the same as the complaints that the people in the fibromyalgia group get.

MARTIN: Well, you’re right about this, because of course, it’s a chronic inflammatory degenerative disease. And
loading up your immune system with toxic things is going to do just that. Well, that’s what we’re seeing.
And of course the word was envenomation introducing venoms into the body, and they are causing this
damage to how the thing is functioning. So there are ways to, to fix it, to reverse it. And they are very
few and it’s actually really amazing. So whether it’s injected or inhaled, whether it comes to you from in
the wild or from an injection, it actually is the same thing.

SCOTT: Okay.

MARTIN: And the number one, if you can believe it is nicotine because the receptor is nicotinic acetylcholine
receptor in the brain that is affected by this thing.
SCOTT: And so the big problem is nicotine.

MARTIN: Well, nicotine is your defense.

SCOTT: Okay.

MARTIN: So smokers get less trouble.

SCOTT: Oh, I see.

MARTIN: But you can chew it. You can buy a nicorette gum or a nicotine patch, or you can just get some nicotine.
Or you can get nicotinic acid, which is vitamin b3, niacin. And then of course, there are some natural
things like quercetin helps, pycnogenol helps, Resveratol helps, EGCG helps. All of these things are found
in the Exsula superfoods. They’re also found in this new line that we recently brought on called Folium.
And then of course, you can go after the genetic problem to the receptor site itself. That’s with the Nano
Soma over here over my shoulder. Right. That will repair the receptor sites, which will fix things. But
people who are not taking precautions are going to indeed suffer in their brain, their heart, their gonads.
That would be menstrual problems, pregnancy problems, reproductive problems for men falling sperm
rates, and yeah.

SCOTT: General aches and pains.

MARTIN: Yeah. Inflammatory, a rise of 0f general toxins.

SCOTT: Tired.

MARTIN: So the antidotes are the vitamins like the vitamin C, B, the works, all of that. Our famous C60, right?
That’s the carrier of all the electrons that we need to deliver the grounding <laugh> that you mentioned.
Right, right. More electrons, raw food, hugging trees.

SCOTT: Hugging people.

MARTIN: Yeah. Well, the trouble with this stuff is that it really is transmitted, right? That the theory, whether it’s
the exosome or the virus is kind of overlaid.

SCOTT: Doesn’t matter. Yeah. Doesn’t matter.

MARTIN: Don’t care what you call it. You are exchanging the report of your inner terrain with your environment
back and forth.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: So you will be exposed. That zero covid policy in China, one of the stupidest things you could have ever
invented.

SCOTT: Right. I’m sure they did it because they just wanted to see what would happen and how far they could
push the people.

MARTIN: Maybe. But masking another stupidity that just doesn’t accomplish anything. <laugh> To wear a mask, to
not catch a virus is about as good as trying to hunt mosquitoes with chicken wire.

SCOTT: Right.

MARTIN: Just so you know, the holes are this big, doesn’t work.

SCOTT: Doesn’t work. And so many people just swear by it. It’s just amazing.

MARTIN: Well, yeah. But it’s an act of faith, right? It’s an external display of, I’m doing something. But it reminds
me of when I was growing up, women were expected to be wearing a scarf on their head. A widow was
expected to be wearing black clothes for one year at least all black, at least a year. It was unacceptable
otherwise. But of course, you have the Jewish guys growing their sideburns or the Sikh guys not cutting
their hair, wearing a turban and blah, blah, blah, all of that. You know, these are the external signs of
doing something as a sign of..

SCOTT: I’m doing something about it. Something’s happening.

SCOTT: I often say Martin, that you can feel safe or you can be safe.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: A lot of times people do stuff they want, they feel safe. But they’re not, that’s not safe. You feel safe, but
you’re not.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: You know, you’re not doing the things that would make you actually safe.

MARTIN: Yep.

SCOTT: Good. Well, I’m glad that there’s something that can be done, because my biggest concern with the
mRNA gene therapy what I call it, experimental gene therapy, was that there was permanent DNA
change and you were hooped.

MARTIN: Well, there could be.

SCOTT: And then I realized that our creator made us so amazing. We can heal from a lot of things.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SCOTT: It’s just kind of like, you come to the cliff, you really want to jump off the cliff? You know sure, you’ll
survive it, you’ll land in the water, but you might break a few things depending on how you hit and how
fast you hit and how deep the water is, but you really need to do that. Like just no, you get the sun, get
good air, get good water, get good food, make sure you’ve got all the vitamins. Rest, live a good life.

MARTIN: Yep.

SCOTT: Avoid the pain.

MARTIN: Well, it goes right back again. Hug someone you love and and spend your money wisely. Spend it with
those who deserve it. Think about what you’re doing.

SCOTT: Martin had no idea I was going to talk about Lazarus today.

MARTIN: All right. Scott.

SCOTT: Thank you Martin.

MARTIN: Thank you. Life-enthusiast.com. 1(866)543-3388. This is Scott Paton. You can look him up online. He’s
quite a guy.

SCOTT: <laugh> And we’re restoring vitality to you and the planet.

MARTIN: Thank you.

MARTIN: Thanks Martin.