Podcast 462: Cellerciser 

The Cellerciser is designed to help improve cardiovascular health, increase circulation and lympathic health, strengthen muscles, and increase overall fitness at a cellular level. It’s a low-impact type of exercise that doesn’t put strain on our joints like other high-impact exercises do. The great thing about Cellercise is that it targets multiple muscles and muscle groups at once, making it efficient and effective.  In today’s episode, find out why cellercising is different than regular rebounding.

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MARTIN: Hi, everybody. This is Martin Pytela, Life Enthusiast podcast. And today I have the distinct pleasure to introduce to you my long time collaborator, David Hall. He is the Mr. Rebounder. Mr. Cellercise. David Hall, welcome to Life Enthusiast.

DAVID: Thank you, Martin. It’s a pleasure to be on your show and thank you for giving me an opportunity to share my message to your listeners.

MARTIN: It’s a very important message. We keep telling people about the four things that destroy health. Toxicity, malnutrition, stagnation and trauma. Cellerciser is a super important piece of the stagnation trouble.

DAVID: Oh, it is. It is. It absolutely increased the circulation. In fact, on that point, when I was building my business plan many years ago, I was asked, David, who’s your target audience? And I said, people. And they laughed at me, and they said, oh, no, you need to narrow your audience. I thought about it for a moment. I said, no, you need to broaden yours, let me tell you why. And it has to do exactly with what you said. If you could look at the blood chemistry of most people that we’ve looked at today in our country, the body becomes more acidic. A lot of it has to do with the stress, the tension, but also the dead processed foods that we eat. And when the body becomes acidic, you can look at the blood cells, especially in the morning, and they’re sticky. They’re not circulating well, as they get sticky, they lose fluid and they become more elongated. They become more susceptible to viruses and germs and bacteria. But when you get on a Cellerciser for 3 to 5 minutes, that’s not that long. You are weightless over 100 times a minute as your body is at the top of the bounce. And then you decelerate and accelerate.

DAVID: You have this contraction that’s occurring within the body. The blood cells have a sodium potassium pump. They’re positively and negatively charged, just like a battery. And we’ve actually seen this. The blood cells, as they expand and contract, they generate a field of energy around the outside of the cell membrane, through that sodium potassium pump. Well, that energy field, which we can see under something called Kirlian photography, that energy field separates the blood cells from each other. So they’re no longer sticky, and as they’re moving up and down, it feeds more oxygen and nutrients through the cell membrane so that the cells are imbibed with more fluid. They’re now separated, they’re now oxygenated and they’re moving up and down, which helps the body now move those individual blood cells back through the capillaries to the brain, to the blood vessels of the eye and other parts and extremities. So you’re right, that moving up and down is what frees the body. And it doesn’t happen with typical exercise. And the reason it doesn’t is because the jarring effect creates stress or tension in the body that restricts the circulation. So you’re right, Martin, we open up circulatory channels and the lymphatic system, as well as the cardiopulmonary circulatory system.

MARTIN: So yeah, you’re making a good point.

DAVID: And so I told him, I look back and I said no, Cellercise is for everybody. They just don’t know it yet. But that’s my job, is to help get the message out to the public.

MARTIN: Yeah, I hear you. Well, if I were asked to narrow it down, it would be narrowing it down to people who are aware of their health and aware of the need and so on. Right. So, yes, creating the awareness is the marketing, right?

DAVID: And it is. And you know, I’d like to comment on that because that’s a beautiful lead into something that I’ve been sharing for years. If you were to draw a line down the middle of a piece of paper, and you say on the right hand side of the line, it represents health, and on the left hand side of the line, it represents illness. Wouldn’t you agree with me that in our culture today, most people have bought into the idea that health is simply an absence of illness. And as a result of that, most people live right on the line. If they get sick, they’ll take a shot or they’ll cross to the left of the line, and they’ll take a shot, a pill or some kind of treatment to get back to the line. And then they stop again. Some people are chronically ill and they’re constantly trying to get as close to the line as they can. But there’s a few people that are way to the right of the line. They enjoy a quality of life, energy and performance that the average person doesn’t even understand, because they haven’t really experienced it. Our objective and your objective, Martin, is to help people get as far to the right of the line as possible. And that’s taking a proactive approach toward health, rather than just a reactive approach toward illness.

MARTIN: So, yes. There is a wonderful concept that you just introduced, which is the concept of wellness. There’s a whole wide space out there in the wellness area, and most of us don’t even know just how deep that is. I remember the first time I stepped on a Cellerciser and I bounced on it for no more than two minutes. I stepped off of it and I felt myself filled with joy. It was something like, the body felt uplifted in an unbelievably joyful way.

DAVID: Yes, so we make Cellercise. It’s fun. It’s something we look forward to doing. It’s the wake up call every morning when we first wake up. It’s creating an enormous amount of balance, both physically and chemically, because the body is literally weightless, switching between weighted and weightless. So the thyroid, the adrenals, the endocrine system, the lymphatic system, it’s all pumping. We’re making it easier on the heart to do the job that it needs to do as far as improving circulation. But you’re right, it’s fun. We make it fun, easy, efficient, convenient, economical, safe. It’s portable. It’s something we can do in just ten minutes a day. And if you stop to think about typical exercise, this is why it’s so efficient. If you took ten, 20, 30, 40% more weight and you applied it to your bicep,

MARTIN: Could you just bring it close up?

DAVID: Sure. If you’re doing 100 biceps or curls, 100 curls a minute, for ten solid minutes. Nobody would argue that’s a great exercise for that muscle. But now you got to do this one and you’ve got to do all the other body parts. Who’s got time for that? Really, today in this world, when you Cellercise, instead of lifting the weight away from gravity, we’re literally increasing the weight of gravity. It’s on every cell membrane over 100 times a minute. The body has no option. Every muscle, bone, connective tissue, ligament, tendon, skin, collagen, protein, fibers, fascia, everything starts to become stronger. This is why people, in 2 to 3 weeks of cellercising, begin to feel like a different person. Their body’s performing better, their balance, equilibrium is getting better, their energy levels are getting better, and it has a myriad of different approaches to deal with knee problems, hip problems, back problems, shoulder problems. By targeting the supporting muscles and ligaments around the joints, digestion, elimination issues. We’re working on the smooth muscles. When we do a gentle twist, as we gently move up and down and twist, we’re putting the colon and the intestines through a little washing machine effect every day. But we’re also massaging liver, kidney, spleen, gallbladder, pancreas, adrenals. Martin, the list goes on and on.

MARTIN: All right. So to break it down, do you use weights in your hands when you bounce on your rebounder?

DAVID: No, I don’t. And some people will use little 2 pound weights, but I don’t. You don’t need to. If you’re lifting, let’s say, a 2 pound weight, you’re running with a 2 pound weight. If you’re doing that, it’s not 2 pounds on a Cellerciser. You’re not just moving away from gravity. You’re increasing the weight of gravity every time you come down. And that’s leveraged and it can cause tendon issues, it can hurt the tendons or the ligaments because they take longer to catch up to a muscle. So, no, I don’t. But I do do resistance movements on the Cellerciser, in a way you can’t do with typical exercise. So for example, in any athletic activity we can give people a competitive advantage. And the way that we do that is we are altering the angle of our body in different positions, creating leverage on muscle groups to focus the effect. But we’re also becoming stronger in an altered position and no exercises are really doing that. And this is why people in gymnastics or horseback riders or any athletic activity, dancing as well, they can improve their performance because they’re challenging their body in a way you cannot, through average, typical exercise. For example, if I were doing an aerobic activity on the Cellerciser, let’s say I’m jogging in place, I’m just running in place. If I tilt backwards slightly,

MARTIN: Out of straight, out of vertical.

DAVID: I just leveraged the bodyweight from underneath the chin all the way down the challenge.

MARTIN: The entire ventral like the whole belly muscle structure. Right?

DAVID: Abs, everything. Because you’re literally coming down in an altered position. And when you come down, your body becomes strong in an ultra position, even though you’re focusing on different areas. So when the North Swat team in North Las Vegas one year I did a demonstration with the professional Tri-fold Cellerciser, and every single Swat member walked out with their own tri-fold Cellerciser, because they understood the importance of what it could do in giving them a competitive advantage over the average person. And we do our strength and balance tests on anybody. It doesn’t matter whether you’re in martial arts, yoga, bodybuilding, whatever. We can improve the overall performance without question, because we’re challenging the body in a way that you cannot challenge it through typical modalities. We’re literally working the entire body collectively as a whole, not as just muscle groups. So if you target one movement, you’re working specific muscles in that one movement. But with Cellercise, you target areas by altering the angle of the body, but the whole body is still involved. That’s what makes it unique.

MARTIN: Right. Yes. Every cell membrane is getting challenged because the liquids are sloshing against its constraints. Right?

DAVID: Yes. You know, it’s funny you say that. I was at, several years ago in 1993, I was bit by seven ticks and I didn’t know it. It was up in the mountains of Utah and I was told they didn’t have Lyme’s disease at the time. But a week later, after I got home a couple of days later, I took a shower and I’ve got these ticks on me. I had to take the ticks off. A week later, I had these bullseye rings over different areas of my body where they bit me. And I was very sick, but I didn’t go to the doctor. I did my Cellercising, I took herbs, but I got to a point where, when my wife had passed away and she’s my hero, but she passed after 20 years of marriage. The stress had gotten to such a degree that, because I’ve been caretaker, taking care of the business. A company was trying to steal my business, it was just a nightmare. Well, I went to, it was called Sierra Medical Health in Reno, Nevada. And Dr. Fong was there and they did a blood test on me where they took my blood and put it underneath the microscope. And they watched the blood colonies and they saw a spirochete that was in the bloodstream and it was bouncing off the actual blood cells. It couldn’t get in. And they said, look at this, and they said, they’re having a hard time getting into your blood cells. So they had a hard time growing or propagating, I guess.

MARTIN: Right. So even though you were infected, you were not affected, right?

DAVID: Exactly right. And the cell membrane, and I had another doctor said that just makes your immune system stronger, had another doctor tell me that the move that Dr. Fong had said, the movement up and down had caused the blood cell membrane, to become stronger, because it didn’t want to rupture with all the weight on it. And as a result of that, I was more resistant to the foreign invaders and I thought. Wow, that’s huge! That’s powerful. Everybody should know that. You don’t get that doing typical exercise. But Cellercise is all weight bearing. So the body has one of two options. You put weight on it over and over and over and over. It’s either going to get shorter and shorter or it’s going to have to get stronger and stronger. It didn’t have an option. You put weight on the cells, they get stronger. That’s how the body works.

MARTIN: Right on. Yes. So the concept that you’re discussing here is called Zeta potential, the red blood cells under dark field microscopy in people who have low Zeta potential form what they call the rouleaux, the stacks of flat cells. It looks like this, as opposed to dispersed like this, And it’s the Zeta potential that gives each cell its charge. And the higher the charge, the greater the force that repels them from one another so that they can separate. And you’re describing just that very thing, with the sodium potassium charge. Right. Sodium always on the outside, potassium always on the inside. And they need to balance because it’s called the sodium potassium pump and it pumps nutrients in and toxins out. And that is just a daily change, and it needs to be dynamic. And it’s important.

DAVID: I agree. In the communication processes that occur at the cellular level, there’s stress, tension, blockages, inflammation, all these things we’re constantly being exposed to that inhibit the ability of the body to be able to perform at a more optimum level. And when you Cellercise, you help to reduce the inflammation, you help open up circulation, communication channels. You mentioned it. Well, it’s joyful. Dancing up and down is fun, and it is fun. But, you have to have resistance, and you have to have movement.

MARTIN: I wanted to just, I’ll butt in here. I have had experiences with really inexpensive units that felt about as responsive as a sheet of cardboard. I mean, it was not any better than just bouncing on the ground because they were just so stiff that they just unload all of that kinetic energy on me instantly. And then I also had the experience of bouncing on bungee cords. These are stretchable and softer. And so they are allowing people to exercise with more comfort, let’s just say. If you’re a soft body, you will appreciate the bungee cords because they unwind over a longer distance. They’re gentler in the response. Well, anyway, I would let you to explain. Just start it off.

DAVID: Yeah. Big trampolines are for tricks and that they’re much more sluggish. Cellerciser moves up and down many more times per minute. But it’s not for tricks. It’s for fitness. It’s for health when you have a sluggish unit. Bungee cords, by definition, are rubber bands, and when they warm up, they also break down. So even though you can start off, Oh, this is fun and it is fun to jump, no question. But people often will ask me how come I don’t? Or how come I didn’t get the same kind of results on a bungee cord unit that I did on the Cellerciser? And the reason for that is if it doesn’t have enough resistance, it’s fun, but it’s not going to build up muscle mass or bone density. You have to have resistance. Cellerciser uses the patented adaptable spring. What it is a self-adjusting spring. It’s a perfect amount to create the movement needed. We have to have movement and the G forces. But with the resistance needed to move the lymphatic system, if it’s sluggish, the lymphatic system is going to be very sluggish as well. But when we’re moving up and down, we have the G forces with the resistance. That’s what pumps the lymph system. They call me Mr. Rebounder. So when I entered the industry, there are myriad of different types of rebounders on the market, but none of them really represented NASA’s research. NASA’s research was done on trampolines to create G forces, but even that was something that wasn’t completely understood with regards to rebounding, because if you didn’t have enough resistance, you wouldn’t get the benefit.

DAVID: They had some movement, but they didn’t have the same kind of resistance. And so I basically incorporated NASA’s research with our spring technology to create the movement and the resistance to allow the body to adapt, and it literally does. And people, if you read our customer reviews on our website, some of them, they’ll bring tears to your eyes, because of the results that people have had when nothing else in their life had worked. And so we encourage people, we don’t make claims, but we say, hey, experience it for yourself. You go ahead and share with the rest of the Cellercise family the benefits that you’ve received as a result of using the product. So, yes, there’s a lot of rebounders out there. Bungee cords, by nature, they’re much softer. The feet can pronate. They’re very common to pronate. They say jump high, you jump high, the foot pronates more. It leverages more weight against the ankles and the knees. And often they start off, Oh, this is fun. Within a month, their ankles and their knees and their hips are hurting them. It is extremely important to have good support under the feet. And what makes a good unit a good unit? Number one, the mat material. You don’t want the mat material to stretch with the springs. It’s interesting because there’s a lot of look-alikes out there and you say, Oh, it looks just like a Cellerciser, but when the mat stretches, then your feet aren’t supported, so they roll.

DAVID: And as you land over and over like that with the pronation, that’s what leads to the ankle problems and knee problems. We use a space age material, space age technology where it’s a polypropylene, but every fiber is put under a nearly 200 tons of pressure. You’re not going to stretch it out. You can leave it out in the sun. The rain, the snow, it doesn’t matter. It’s weather resistant. They make swimming pool covers out of it now because it’s resistant. I’ve had a unit outside in the sun, the rain and the snow for 18 years. We still use it. The paint oxidized, but the springs are in perfect condition, literally. And the unit still works. Even the rubber feet on our units have a lifetime warranty on them because they don’t wear out like typical rubber feet do. So everything is the best quality. The steel in our springs makes a huge difference. If the steel is too weak, it’s going to stretch out. If it’s not flexible enough, then there’s a jarring effect. And jarring is what can damage or hurt the body. The Cellerciser, the steel that we use in our spring is so strong it destroyed conventional spring molds. So we had to create a tungsten steel mold just to be able to produce our spring. But our units are still being used 20 and 30 years later. They’re still holding up and they’re doing very, very well.

MARTIN: So what is the weight limit that you can manage on this thing?

DAVID: You know, we have people that have been well over 350 pounds use the Cellerciser, but we warranted to 350 pounds. But keep in mind, somebody who’s 350 pounds or more, they’re not going to be bouncing up and down on the Cellerciser. What we’re going to want to do first is strengthen the supporting muscles and ligaments in the knees and the hips so that we can harness the biggest muscles of the body. And we do that very gently by standing on the Cellerciser, spread our feet apart a little bit, do a gentle bouncing up and down to warm up the tissue, get the circulation going. Then we do a hip rock to help warm up the hips, and then we do the Jamba Walk. And that’s a technique I designed that burns calories pretty quickly. And it also increased the metabolism. And that’s done by spreading the feet apart, bending the knee, keeping the back straight and the feet flat and pushing down into the mat. You’re not bouncing off the mat at all. You’re pushing down. You’re using the springs. And as you’re pushing down left, right, left, right, you work the biggest muscles of the body and within 20 to 30 seconds, you’re going to feel the burn. It’s intense. Those big muscles,

MARTIN: I know the Jamba Walk, I think I have at this point reached about 30 seconds before the muscles are in full burn.

DAVID: Yeah. And you do repetitions of it. And what happens when you do repetitions, you do your first set and then you do the baby bounce. You lift the heels up and down to pump the calf muscle to feed oxygen and nutrients back to the thighs, priming them for the next set. Then you do the next set of the Jamba Walk. Pretty soon you’ve eaten up all the glucose and sugars in the bloodstream and now the body needs more fuel. So it has no choice. It goes after the white adipose tissue or the fat that’s been stored in the body, and we start to see the inches coming off. And that’s how we do it. So it’s a specific approach that we take, depending on the condition that a person is in, that helps the difference.

MARTIN: Yeah. You ship a DVD with this thing, right?

DAVID: Yeah. We have a downloadable version so you can add it right to your iPad or your smartphone and watch it at your convenience. And it explains what it is, why it works, shows you how to use it, shows you what I do in my ten minute a day routine that I’ve been doing for over 30 years. And then it also has a personal trainer dropdown menu that teaches you the different movements. Of course we have that on our website as well.

MARTIN: And so these movements that would be like focus on your knees or focus on your hips or that sort of thing.

DAVID: Or weight loss or digestion, elimination or muscle building or working on helping to open up the vertebral joints in the back to increase circulation to the discs, something most people don’t even know how to do. We move fluid up and down as we’re moving up and down and we do different movements to help feed that additional circulation into the vertebral joints to the discs. The doctors call it imbibition or imbibing those discs with more synovial fluid. Most people don’t get enough circulation to the disc, and we’re told up to 80% of Americans are going to end up with back problems to contend with. And what we want to do is help mitigate, stop or reverse or improve our overall back health, flexibility and strength. And there’s specific movements that we do that deal with that. But we do the same thing with the shoulders, the muscles and ligaments, the rotator cuff and doing different movements while we’re bouncing causes all these muscles and tendons to expand and contract, increasing flexibility, strength and circulation. And we work a lot with therapists for the same thing. There’s specific approaches we can take that can help address certain issues. And I’m always happy to consult with a doctor or a health practitioner. They’re getting the word out to the public.

MARTIN: The most frequent call I get is my knees are bone on bone.

DAVID: Yeah.

MARTIN: We deal with those.

DAVID: Yes we get that a lot. My next door neighbor is working on the Cellerciser and he notices when he doesn’t do it versus when he does do it. But, yes there’s even doctors now saying that when bone rubs against bone, it has a tendency to create collagen. But if we are not addressing the supporting muscles and ligaments around the joint, then all we’re doing is masking the issue or dealing with the symptom and not the condition. We have to target the supporting muscles and ligaments. And as we do, as they get stronger, then we’re able to retain more support and more fluid retention in the joints. And there are specific movements that we can do that can help those issues just slowly fade away, myself included. Several years ago, I was goofing around with my daughter in a yoga movement and what I thought was a yoga movement. It wasn’t. I was on my knees, I sat all the way back to the ground and she said, Can you lift me up? So she got on top and said, lift me up. And so I started to lift her up, and I am pretty strong. But you could hear both my knees snap and it was really bad and it hurt. And it took several months for my right knee. It started to get better, but my left knee, every time I bent my leg, you could see it pop out of joint. And I figured, oh, I must have dislocated it. But I was so busy I didn’t go to the doctor. Finally I decided I’d better go get this looked at.

DAVID: And Dr. Christopher Chapman, who was my chiropractor, I was bending my knee there and he looked at it and he said, Stop doing that. I said, Well, can you pop it back into place? And he said, No, you need an MRI. Okay. So he scheduled, and it’s nice to have somebody who knows people. He scheduled the MRI that day. They read the MRI that day. And when they were reading it, they said, well, you’ve torn the meniscus horizontally and vertically and you need to have surgery. But in the course of reading the x-ray, they said you have lesions here and here. And I said, What do you mean lesions? And they said, Well, it’s where you’ve torn it before. And I said, It healed. And they said, yes. I said, Well, why wouldn’t this heal? Well, as bad as this is, and at your age, no, you need to have the surgery. Well, I didn’t do it. I got a knee sock and I started to do the exact same things I teach other people that have knee issues what to do. It took about a year. Ligaments and tendons take a long time to heal. Took about a year. But I was on Fox News one year later talking about the benefits of Cellercise. I stuck my right leg out, sat all the way down on the left knee, left leg to the ground, stood up again, and realized it’s fine. Hasn’t bothered me since. I’m so grateful I didn’t have the surgery, but I was able to help structure and strengthen the supporting muscles and ligaments around the knees.

DAVID: And we have many examples of that. I’m not the only one. Robert Gant was a good, good friend of mine who had won numerous competitions in the early 70s. He listed them all on the left hand side of his letterhead, and when I met him, his knees were shot. His back was a mess. He couldn’t compete. He’s a little depressed. I said, what have you done to restructure and strengthen the supporting muscles and ligaments around your knees? And he’s like, what? I said, let me show you. So we spent quite a bit of time together. I gave him the program. He started to do it. Three and a half months later, he goes up to the senior games, pentathlon. He wins first place in all of North America, considered the best on the continent. In his 60s, he leg presses 880 pounds and he writes me a letter which we have posted on our website. I scanned it. It’s in his handwriting. He says: “It has been absolutely miraculous, the positive influence that your Cellerciser has had on my body. I’ve tried every strength, pilates, stretching routine available. Nothing like your tramp has helped me to get my muscle and joint health back. He says, Helen and I, his wife, are sold on what you created. And he continued to send me letters of these competitions he was winning. I could tell you a story after story of athletes that I’ve worked with who have torn up their body and helped to rebuild their body by implementing and working with the Cellerciser.

MARTIN: Which is fantastic! And the guidance is really important because you need to have the support and the explanation of what you’re doing and why you are doing it. So you instead of damage, create healing.

DAVID: Exactly right. And you don’t have to tear down to build up. And that’s what makes it so effective. Even in physical therapy, we have people that have shoulder issues and they’re trying to stretch or get the mobility back into their shoulder and arm and hold underneath the shoulder to support, if they do this, they support and then they gently bounce. The gentle bouncing creates a huge dynamic in this shoulder tissue, your weightless weight, weightless weight. So it’s a gentle massage while you’re pumping circulation. It’s also weight bearing. And so we start to open up the shoulders. And as they can, they just gently lift it a little bit further and bounce. They don’t have to overstretch, allow the movement, get to the point of resistance and allow the movement to massage that tension and increase that flexibility. And then we do these different movements where you bounce for a few moments in this direction, and then you lift your elbows up and bounce and then out to the side and bounce, and over time you just start to increase that rotator cuff strength and flexibility again.

MARTIN: That’s awesome. Do you have any experience with people who get dizzy from motion?

DAVID: Absolutely. There’s crystals in the ear and the movement up and down on a Cellerciser challenges, both the crystals in the ear, but it also challenges what’s called vestibular balance. We have the smallest bone in the earth, the stirrup. And as we start to move up and down, we’re moving that fluid up and down. We’re going to challenge the balance mechanism. Keep in mind, none of us are born with balance. We have to challenge it to get it. Cellercise creates balance within the body, but it’s also challenging the body. The proprioceptors, the nervous system, brain interaction with those proprioceptors and our body movements are all being challenged when we Cellercise. My wife had vertigo and we couldn’t dance. I couldn’t twirl around without her experiencing those issues. So we’ve found that with most people, within a month of Cellercising, their vertigo issues have either disappeared or been greatly diminished from Cellercising. Because we’re opening up the circulatory channels, we’re challenging the circulation to balance. We’ve had people that have had strokes, and when we’re challenging brain activity, then the brain can relearn and it has helped people rehabilitate on the Cellerciser as well. Again some incredible,

MARTIN: You would start these people with just a baby bounce, just the gentlest up down and then the hip. Just whatever you described, right? Just the basics.

DAVID: Yeah, yeah. We just start up gently moving up and down. Allow the body to adapt. There are some instances where people can’t have any movement. They can sit on the Cellerciser. We have a balance bar that has two rubber handles on both sides. You can hold on to the rubber handles and then they can bounce you up and down. The body doesn’t know the difference. It’s still being stimulated and challenged. So you’re sitting there, somebody’s standing there, and they’re gently bouncing you up and down. You’re getting lymphatic circulation, as well all the tissues and it’s all weight bearing for the person sitting down as well. Some people are in wheelchairs and they put their feet on the Cellerciser. Since the lymphatic system starts at the extremities, the toes and the fingertips of the body as they put their feet down and you start to move up and down.. You have one way valves, and so you pump and you are literally pumping. So we can have better use. And often we’ve had a number of people, even those with multiple sclerosis, who have written to me how the Cellerciser has helped them to get out of the wheelchair and walk again.

DAVID: You can read their reviews. You bet.

MARTIN: That’s really impressive. Actually, there’s a poster behind you, and I see there’s, I think it’s a woman sitting there bouncing, right?

DAVID: That’s our more advanced, you know, that’s a great technique for really building up those stomach muscles. I do it generally, standing up, tilting backwards and kicking my legs out in front of me to leverage the weight. But if you really want to go after it quickly, we have graduated movements. Women, for example, who’ve had several babies or even after pregnancy, and they want to really tighten and tone the lower abdominals again. They can sit on the Cellerciser, and they put their hands on the mat so they have support on their back. And let me see if I can get it so you can see this or not. So by sitting on the Cellerciser, they’re putting the hands to help support your back right on the mat and tilting backwards slightly. We cause all these muscles to tense up now as we gently move up and down without having just the vertical movement, we’re sitting back. We have a little additional support for all the internal organs. So the fascia and those connective tissues, because it’s weight bearing, can help move back into position after a pregnancy, but it can help support and increase contractions and strengthen the lower abdominals. So that gentle movement is done just like this initially, you can support yourself. As you become stronger, you can take your hands away. And now it’s all being done right here with the stomach muscles. As you continue to get stronger, you can tilt backwards, lift up one leg and now you’re leveraging more weight here in the abdominals, lift up the other leg eventually become strong enough. You can lift up both legs. You’re bouncing up and down with up and down with the stomach or going cheek to cheek. Now you’re working the obliques, both sides of the stomach wall or in and out or up and down. And honestly, I don’t know of any sit up that’s going to come close to what you can get with the benefits of a Cellerciser.

MARTIN: Well, look at you. You hardly even break hard breathing. You must be very, very toned and fit, baby.

DAVID: You know, it’s interesting. Martin, I’m going to be 67 in October. And I feel like I did when I was in my 20s and 30s. My peers are now asking me, I’ve been telling them for years about the benefits of Cellercise. And now they’re coming up to me and they’re saying, What is it you do? How is it you do that? Because they’re seeing what I was teaching 30 years ago, it’s absolutely true and it’s working. And there’s so many things you can do with it.

DAVID: I just have to caution people not to try to do some of the movements on typical rebounders because it isn’t the same thing. And just as a word of caution, in 1995, my dad, I told him about the benefits. I didn’t call it Cellercise at the time, but I told him about the benefits. I had a tapered spring design, and he went out and tried to do my exercises on a typical rebounder. He was permanently disabled within a month. The jarring effect of landing on a unit that didn’t have the right support or movement caused a bone fragment in his nerve, and he ended up having surgery. He was out there after surgery, they had him walking for 20 minutes a day on a sidewalk. And I said, why are you doing that? I said, you’re hitting a hard surface, It’s not going to help improve circulation, flexibility. It’s that jarring effect that’s going to restrict it. But I wasn’t the doctor, right? Ten years go by. The year was 2005, I was sitting at my desk, my Dad gives me a call. And he had gone in for some physical therapy, and as he was waiting in the waiting room, the doctor walks in carrying, guess what? A Cellerciser. And he says, Mr. Hall, My dad’s name is Dave Hall too. He said, you might want to consider getting one of these, and then starts to tell my dad everything that I’ve been telling him ten years before. He called me up to tell me. See, when I started off, nobody really knew all these benefits that are associated with cellercising. But after ten years of traveling around the country, being on television, being written about in numerous books and magazines and articles and what not, the word has spread. And now we’ve reignited the entire industry. Now we just need to let people know there’s a difference between cheap Chinese made units. There really is. And a good quality unit, as far as performance support and results.

MARTIN: Right. Well, I wouldn’t throw the word Chinese around anyway because, of course, you get what you pay for. You can go to China and you can order cheap stuff and you can order quality stuff. They’ll make you whatever you specify.

DAVID: That’s what I’ve heard.

MARTIN: They’re agnostic. They do get a bad name because they are willing to make cheap stuff, but, I don’t know.

DAVID: You’re right, though.

MARTIN: Where do you get your stuff assembled?

DAVID: Well, the materials are made here in the United States, USA, they never had anything come from China, just because.

MARTIN: Sure, you can trust it. The trust is the big thing.

DAVID: Yeah, trust is the big thing. The unit itself is actually through a robotic welding system. It’s assembled in Taiwan. Which we have a real good relationship with and we’re hoping to maintain.

MARTIN: Let’s hope that China doesn’t walk in and take it away from you.

DAVID: Yeah, and that’s true. And it could happen. So I tell people to get your Cellerciser now, they last. We bring it back to the states and we finish putting it together here and then we ship it out to our customers.

MARTIN: Right on. Yeah. I mean, it’s an international thing, right? The steel probably starts in Brazil or God knows where.

DAVID: No, I think we get our steel from Japan. Some of the best quality steel on the market.

MARTIN: Okay, great. Well, that’s good to know, right?

DAVID: Yeah. It’s a good thing.

MARTIN: You have a warranty that’s a what, 5 year?

DAVID: Yeah, We’ve got a five year warranty on everything other than the spring cover. Workmanship,

MARTIN: That’s vinyl. You can cut it with anything.

DAVID: Yeah. And it’s for workmanship. If somebody gets on a Cellerciser and they’ve got something sharp on the bottom of their shoe, you know, they could cut the material. I’ll give you an example. I’ve got a neighbor whose kids got a hold of the Cellerciser. Put it up against a tree at an angle, and they spent all day throwing rocks at it. Oh, this is great. This is great. Well,

MARTIN: They missed a few times.

DAVID: Yeah, I’m sure. The neat thing about our mat material is it’s tentered, it’s like all the fibers are, it doesn’t run. Because all the fibers are kind of seared together in a 200 degree oil drum bath and that’s what gives a real nice finish but also helps to keep the actual fibers together. So they put little holes in it where the fibers were sticking up. But it would still work fine, I told him he can still use it. He ended up buying a new mat and I just told him how to put the new mat on. But yeah, as far as workmanship and things like that, the Cellercise family as most people who have a Cellercise know, it’s a family. And we support each other. Our objective isn’t just to sell a good quality unit. Our objective is to help people get results, which is why I created the Mr. Rebounder.com. If you go to Mr. rebounder.com, it’s an actual app that has over 30 pre-made routines for beginners, intermediate, advanced, seniors, and you can take a library of 65 different movements and create your own routine. So I know one size isn’t going to fit all feet. And so I chose not to create an exercise routine on the Cellerciser and expect everybody to do the same routine. That’s not fair. So I created different routines that start anywhere from two minutes to over 20 minutes. You can go longer. You can do a routine more than once. And then we have other support, additional materials that are designed to help support you as far as getting results and staying motivated. So we’ve built in some little fun tools with that.

DAVID: Right on.

MARTIN: So I guess you’re going to stay in business until you what? I guess you’ll die standing, right?

DAVID: You know, that’s interesting because I could do that. True story, I had a gentleman call me up last year, I don’t think I mentioned this on your program, tell me if I did. But he called me up last year and he said, David, I woke up this morning feeling great. I know why, it’s because of your Cellerciser. I just had to call and say thank you. I said, well, that’s nice. He says, 20 years ago you introduced me to Cellercise and it changed my life. I’ve watched my family, friends and peers pass on a lot of them on drugs, medications, poor quality of health. I woke up, I feel great. I’m still enjoying life and I’m still very active, he said. 20 years ago, when you introduced it to me, I was in my 70s.

DAVID: So there you go.

MARTIN: Yep. That’s the message. You know, it reminds me, when is the best time to plant a tree? 20 years ago. The second best time to plant a tree, today.

DAVID: Today. There you go.

DAVID: Yeah I can pretty much guarantee all of your people, if you’re absorbing nutrients, if you’re taking a fiber drink, if you’re having troubles with digestion, elimination, Cellerciser is going to help improve the results of your body to absorb nutrients. It’s like a washing machine effect. If you throw dirty clothes in the washing machine and you turn on the water but you forget to put in the soap, and you don’t turn on the agitator, now that’s not going to get the clothes very clean. When you throw in those dirty clothes, you throw in the soap, turn on the water, but you forget to turn on the agitator.

MARTIN: Well, nothing.

DAVID: There will be parts that are clean. But when you throw in that soap or that digestive aid, you turn on that water and then you turn on the agitator. It’s going to work. It’s going to get those clothes clean. And that’s what Cellercise does. You move up and down and you do a gentle twist. It’s like putting the colon and the intestines through a washing machine effect every day. So,

MARTIN: This reminds me, walking on uneven ground challenges the body in minute, tiny ways, and it strengthens the core of the tiny muscles. They’re not big. The big muscles are on the legs and arms and stuff, but the tiny muscles that are surrounding the spine, they are responsible for the core strength. And as you’re describing this leaning out of balance and the twisting and stepping, that is what I think has a major role in strengthening the core.

DAVID: Let me comment on that. That is a beautiful lead in. I would have written that down for you to ask me if I thought about it, but that was beautiful. Thank you, Martin. I want to talk about balance just briefly, because it’s not something we’re born with that it’s so vitally important for us at all ages, but it has very little to do with age. I don’t know if you remember when you were a kid, but you could stand on a fence post and if there was a railing, you could walk across the railing. You’ve got your arms out to the side and you’re trying to balance yourself. That’s called dynamic balance. It’s challenging. Just as you mentioned, all of these little tiny muscles and balance mechanisms in the body to do that. Now, if you were to stand on that same fence post and you were going to walk across the railing, you had a pole that was in the ground and you grabbed the pole and you continued to hold on to the pole while you were walking across the railing. That’s called static balance. You’re not working all these little muscles. You’re now dependent upon the pole. And it’s interesting you mentioned that because we have and the rest of the industry doesn’t really understand this, because they’ve tried to downplay what we did. We have a balance bar, a performance bar that attaches to the Cellerciser, and it’s loose on purpose. You pull it toward you, it’s more like static balance. It gives you confidence and you’ve got it.

DAVID: But as your natural balance improves, it becomes more dynamic, balance oriented. You’re not relying upon it as much. Your natural balance is improving. Now, it’s like standing on that fence post. You’re walking across the railing, you grab a willow branch, the willow branch isn’t going to stop you from falling, but all of a sudden your balance improves dramatically. That’s what our balance bar system does. It helps you develop dynamic balance so that when you go out and you do something, your balance is improving in everything you do. I had a lady, she called me up just before Christmas, she was on a ladder at the corner of her house putting on these Christmas lights, and she was trying to reach around. She lost her balance. There was a wrought iron fence with the spikes on the top that went from her house over to her neighbor’s yard. She was headed right down to those spikes and she knew she was going to get skewered, and so she leapt. She leapt from the ladder through the air. She missed the fence, put her hands down, was able to roll and stand up fine. She was in her late 50s. She calls me and she says, David, there is no way I could have done that before Cellercise. I said, I understand it, with Cellercise, you are challenging your balance mechanism in a way that the average person doesn’t do anymore. So you’re going to take that improved balance into all your activities.

MARTIN: Yeah I don’t think I can top that.

DAVID: Oh. <laughing>

MARTIN: Well, there we are. I would encourage all of you people who have taken the time to hear this, to think about it good and hard. Whether you want to buy something inexpensive or if you want to just simply carry on walking on flat ground. But I tell you, this is a time saving device. It also lets you do this even in the cold or inclement weather because it’s on the inside, and it will last a lifetime. I certainly expect mine to outlive me.

DAVID: You know, and it’s interesting on that. Because we know through Dr. Arthur C guidance research and his book Medical Physiology and MD that when you get on a Cellerciser, and you run as fast as you can for one minute, just one minute, you can increase the number of active white blood cells in your body by 10 to 15 times, and they’ll stay there for up to one hour, one minute for one hour of your own natural antibiotic. You pull your white blood cells out so they can go after any lingering viruses, germs, bacteria, fungus, dead cells, mutant cells, cancer cells, whatever. So you can stay and be healthy and stronger. And we’ve had numerous examples, myself included, if you feel like you’ve been exposed to something or you’re coming down with something, I’ll get on that Cellerciser, I’ll run really, really fast and I’ll go lie down. I now have an army at my disposal that I’ve pulled out that are now activated, looking to destroy the viruses. And we’ve had many people that have had illnesses overcome the illnesses while they were Cellercising.

MARTIN: Yeah, look at that. Not just physical strength or flexibility, but even immunity gets affected by this.

DAVID: It does.

MARTIN: Well, fantastic. You will find the Cellerciser in the show notes below, I will also send you links to where David’s exercise videos can be had. And I encourage you to seriously consider just how good this thing is.

DAVID: You have any questions, feel free to comment or call me. I’m here. I want to thank you for supporting Martin as well, and all the work he is doing to help you take charge of your internal and external environments more effectively so you can reach that greater health potential. Thanks, Martin.

MARTIN: This is Martin Pytela, Life Enthusiast podcast, life-enthusiast.com, Thank you.

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