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CHARLLES: Well, thank you for having me. It’s a true pleasure. I also enjoyed our previous conversation. 

MARTIN: Hi, everyone. This is Martin Pytela, and with me today, Charlles Bohdy. And Charlles comes to me with a very, very interesting story. He and I talked, and we’re going to do a bit of a repeat of that because the world needs to know people like Charlles. Charlles Bohdy, welcome to Life Enthusiast podcast. 

MARTIN: Great. Yeah, it takes one to know one, doesn’t it?

CHARLLES: Yes, sir.

MARTIN: We call it a meeting agenda, what we want to cover. Did you want to lead in?

CHARLLES: Yeah.

MARTIN: Why does the world need to know about what we have to offer? What is the matter with water that people don’t really understand?

CHARLLES: Boy, I’ll tell you, that is a deep subject and a wet one, as my dad used to say growing up. And the real truth is that water is, it’s something that makes up 70% plus of our bodies. And it’s all around us. It’s required for health. You die without water much faster than you die without food. Air is the only thing that you need more of than water to stay alive. And in order for us to understand water, we really need to do a deep dive because we’ve been taught in school that it’s a simple chemical H2O, two parts hydrogen, one part oxygen, and that’s it. It’s water. And we’ve got to drink it every day. And that’s about it.

MARTIN: Water is so mysterious because if it weren’t liquid, you really chemically should think of it as a metal. 

CHARLLES: And it’s anomalous. You know, water defies so many different things. There are so many anomalous features of water that it truly beggars belief. Its capacity to absorb heat is phenomenal.

MARTIN: Yeah, the magical four degrees centigrade that allows the creatures that live in water to survive in water even when it’s frozen.

CHARLLES: That’s right. That’s right. And we’re just taught to, we don’t even think about water. It’s around us. We have to drink it every day. That’s about it. Some of us that are water enthusiasts, we like to go to the beach or go to our backyard and enjoy our swimming pool. But it’s not something we give much contemplation to. Some people are paranoid about drinking tap water. So they buy bottled water from the store thinking that they’re doing themselves and their bodies a favor. And that’s just not the case. That opens a whole secondary can of worms. But I think for starters, it’s good to understand that water is not a simple chemical. I mean, going back to the Bible and some of the ancient scriptures from other religions, it says in the very first chapter of the first book: ‘He divided the waters above from the waters beneath.’ That’s before anything was created. If you follow the Genesis narrative, it started with water. And so, recent studies over the last 25 years in physics have uncovered some startling facts about water. There’s a very brilliant professor. He’s the former dean of material sciences at Stanford University, Professor William Tiller. And he posited and then proved that water is a cage-like molecule capable of storing frequencies and information. Its function is more akin to a liquid crystal as opposed to a simple, sterile H2O stuff that we were taught about in school. So it has a memory.

MARTIN: Yeah. And I would like to butt in here with, I think of it as God’s memory device.

CHARLLES: Well, it is. It is.

MARTIN: Because it actually acts as a random access memory. Well, and homeopathy is a witness to this, right?

CHARLLES: Absolutely. That’s the basis of homeopathy, the capacity to introduce a small amount of a substance into water. And the less of it you have, the stronger the concentration of the homeopathic remedy is. And that’s because you’re getting closer and closer on multiple dilutions to getting the pure frequency only, rather than the substance in the fluid. And then water-based homeopathic remedies have to be percussed or banged to reinstitute that frequency of the tiniest amount of data or information that’s in that water for the homeopathic remedy to be functional.

MARTIN: I raised my children, myself and wife, we raised our children using homeopathy. That there were no antibiotics or painkillers or, whatever’s, you know, oh, did you just have a fall? Well, is this an Arnica fall?

CHARLLES: Yes, exactly. And in my home, we use both homeopathy and naturopathy. And for antibiotic effects, we make our own nanoparticle colloidal silver on our counters. And we rely on a lot of things that are not what I would call ‘Harma-ceuticals.’

MARTIN: Right. Yeah.

CHARLLES:  But with water, going back to this strange substance, this cage-like molecule, we have a few things we’ve got to deal with. First of all, we’ve got to filter out the physical particulate. And when we get the water to a pure state, we still have contaminated information in our water because we have, as you mentioned, it’s a God’s hard drive. It has the capacity to retain the information of pathogens and toxic chemicals and anything that it’s come into contact with. Pharmaceuticals, anything, the water that comes out of our tap, we often have never considered. And very few of us have ever visited a modern water treatment plant.

About 15 years ago, when I began building and testing and studying structuring devices. I was friends with the health inspector in my hometown. I’d given a speech before all of the health inspectors in the state of Ohio. And he secured a tour for me of our local water treatment plant in my hometown, which was considered to be as far as the West goes state-of-the-art. It was very recently built, it was only a few years old. And I got to tour this brilliant water treatment plant. And let’s just say it’s just close to barbaric.

The water comes in the toilets and the sinks and the gutters and the runoff, and it runs to this big processing plant. And it goes through a machine that grabs all of the gross stuff that gets flushed down the toilet, the wet wipes and the thick toilet papers that don’t dissolve. They call that the grabber, and it pulls this crud out. And then that gets it shuttled and compressed into bins and put in with the biosolids eventually. And then it goes through a series of tanks, where they basically chlorinate the ever living crap out of it to try and kill the pathogens to the best of their ability. And then they do have several other tanks where they hope to allow biological digestion to continue after the heavy duty pathogen killing is done.

And then when it gets relatively clear and the turbidity gets and turbidity is a measurement of opacity, how much you can see through the water, when it gets to a certain level, and it hits the minimum threshold for pathogens, it goes right back into the pipes and right back up into the water towers and goes right back into the people’s houses to drink again.

MARTIN: Right. Well, the objective is that we do not poison and infect the population.

CHARLLES: That’s right.

MARTIN: While drinking sewage that’s coming out of the town that’s upstream.

CHARLLES: Exactly right.

MARTIN: Yeah.

CHARLLES: And so, I was just blown away at their lack of sophisticated knowledge about water. And of course, I didn’t mention that here in the States, maybe not so much in Canada, but here in the States, they also have a station where they dump in bags of toxic fluoride, of course, to save our teeth. Not to mention that 99% of the water that comes out of a house is water pipes. Doesn’t go in the mouth for tooth brushing, it goes into the gardens, it goes into the sinks, it goes into the showers and the toilets and the baths. And it’s not the kind of fluoride that they used in the tooth studies that they leaned on to sell this to the public. It’s a by-product of refining metals and a by-product of doing electrolytic deposition and other things. It’s a toxic waste product. So what they’ve created for themselves is a free EPA toxic waste removal scheme where this poison gets swirled down our drains and they don’t have to pay for it, matter of fact, they get paid to dump it.

MARTIN: Doesn’t get better. 

CHARLLES: So, that is another one of the toxins, and fluoride. I have some brilliant scientific friends that have been working very diligently to get fluoride banned from our drinking water here in the United States. And it is a tremendous neurotoxin, it has proven to cause developmental delays in children, and it doesn’t stop just because you’re finished growing. It continues to work in calcifying the pineal gland, and it has all sorts of other detrimental toxic effects. So one of the things that’s super important if you’re in the United States to do is filter the fluoride out. Forget about all the other things, the fluoride itself, they add that after it’s supposedly purified.

MARTIN: Yes, 100% fluoride does horrible things to us. Chlorine does horrible things to us too. It decimates the microbes living within us. 

CHARLLES: And we’ve got what they call DBPs or disinfection byproducts, which are the chloramines, the trihalomethanes, and the other toxic byproducts as chlorine interacts with biological matter that are created. And those have well-documented toxic, poisonous effects. And you had mentioned why is it so important to treat the water that comes out of the rest of our faucets that isn’t the water that we drink? And I’ve compiled a rather gruesome list if you’re brave enough to hear it.

MARTIN: Sure let’s have it this is why we’re here. We really want to enlighten the audience with understanding just how serious this issue is.

CHARLLES: Just a couple of years ago, there was a joint investigation that was done by Consumer Reports and The Guardian newspaper in England, testing water from across the United States at over 120 locations. The results were really frightening. They found that in over 118 of the 120 locations that were tested, there were levels of PFOS, arsenic, lead, and other minerals that were over the maximum allowable and considered unsafe.

MARTIN: And those allowable levels are not really beneficial to life.

CHARLLES: Oh no, the allowable levels are also too high. And in the states we don’t really test for the forever chemicals like PFOS and PFOA. And then there’s a whole long list of other industrial runoff. You have the nitrates and the nitrites from farming, and pesticides and irrigation and residual fertilizers that are washing away into the rivers, the streams, and the lakes and getting into the water table. And other petrochemical, petroleum distillate-type poisons that enter the water stream and are very hard to remove.

MARTIN: Yes my favorite antibiotic, RoundUp.

CHARLLES: Oh well, glyphosate, my goodness. Yes. People, that’s a whole other show. But it’s probably responsible for the sickening of North America more than any other thing, besides the no-till seed drilling that puts mold into the food supply at the same time as it’s putting the poison. It used to be when they came out with Roundup, they only sprayed it to kill weeds. And whether your viewers are aware of this or not, they spray it on the crops just two weeks before harvest. So, it gets on the fully grown crops and grains. And they do that so that it all gets brown and dries out at the exact same time. It used to be that farmers fit their fields over a period of weeks, and the earliest planted crop would dry first and then subsequent fields in a rotation as the farmer’s time finished. That’s how they would rotate and harvest their crops. So now they want to do it all at once. So, they come in two weeks before harvest time and they spray this Roundup, this glyphosate on all the wheat, the corn, and the soybeans. And it dies all at the same time. 

Then they can set up their geo-tracking-based combines that are computer-controlled, and the farmer sleeps behind the seat. And they go all over the fields, harvesting all of the grains all at once. And it saves the farmer a lot of effort. I mean, the reason why the farmers like it is because it takes away a lot of their workload. But that means that those poisons have been sprayed right onto the fields. Well, guess what happens when you spray it onto the grain? It gets into the grain. When you spray it onto the fields, as soon as it rains, it runs right into the water table. And then we’re back to this subject of contaminated runoff. It gets into the rivers, it gets into the lakes, it gets into the water stream, it even poisons the first several hundred feet of the ocean. 

If most of the fishermen that I know, I live in Florida, they need to go out at least a mile, mile and a half before they’ll even think about eating the fish because of the poisonous runoff that they get from the shore. And when you can affect that large of a body of water, imagine your local small water supply in your hometown. And it’s happening all around, it’s happening all the time. It’s happening all around North America and all over the world.

So they found lead. Lead is one of the most common contaminants. And many of the old towns had lead water mains. And they’ve outlawed lead in new construction, but that doesn’t mean that it’s gone from the older towns. Most of the older towns still have these ancient lead water mains running from the downtown square. And then as it gets out into the suburbs and the newer areas, it switches over to iron or PEX or something else. But oftentimes closest to the source, they’re still actual lead mains or the old brass fittings that had lead in them before they made the brass become lead-free. And it’s horrific, it’s a terrible poison. 

We have Arsenic, it’s another element and it’s another super toxic poison. It causes nausea, vomiting, it drops your production of red and white blood cells. It can create heart rhythms and damage to your blood vessels. A lot of people that suffer from pins and needles in their feet and their hands, may be suffering from arsenic without realizing it. And it’s more common than you think. In this study that they did with Consumer Reports, they found arsenic was a very common poison found all over. 

And then we’ve got nitrates, which come from fertilizers and feedlots and industrial waste and food processing. High levels of nitrite can decrease your body’s ability to carry oxygen to the tissue. And so, we found that the number one cause of all of our degenerative diseases today is hypoxia, which is a lack of oxygen in the tissues. And it’s usually caused by inflammation, but this can be a direct contributing factor, the nitrates that are running off from farmer’s fields. 

And then radon, which is a gas, and you can be taking a shower and get radon coming out in the form of a gas. It happens due to naturally occurring uranium and thorium and radium breakdown in the water, and very few filters do anything to remove the radioactive elements. And so you can be breathing that gas in while you’re standing in your own shower. 

And then you’ve got really hard, you get into the biologicals. And those are a whole other level of living things that are active pathogens, some of which can handle the natural amounts of chlorine that they use in our water treatment facilities. Things like Legionella can swim around in two parts per million of chlorine and do just fine. And the list goes on and on. You have Cryptosporidium and you’ve got Campylobacter and E. Coli. And these are all often present in the water lines from biofilms that build up along the course of our cities’ municipal water supply system. And then they’ve fed and lived there long after the water was treated. So as it’s going from the treatment plant back to your house, it picks up these pathogens. And that doesn’t even begin to talk about what’s living in your own pipes, in your own house, in your shower heads and things. 

You have enterovirus, and that comes typically from fecal matter that goes in these sewage treatment plants. And they get it down to acceptable levels, but that doesn’t mean it’s gone. And you’ve got Giardia and Hepatitis. And as I mentioned before, Legionella. And these are all real things. Norovirus, a very common thing, also found in this study. All these things were found in this actual study. Rotavirus, another thing that’s really common from manure. And you’ve got Salmonella, which most people know about, and Shigella. And again, often these things are related to the sewage treatment plants themselves.

MARTIN: So there are actually known instances where these levels were found to be there and the water has been sampled and tested and documented that despite treatment, there you are.

CHARLLES: Yes. I mean, they get it down to acceptable levels when it leaves the plant. But again, there’s all these connections and hubs and junctures where the water travels through the pipes, and they can develop and hide out and live in biofilms that build up on the inside of these pipes and these accretions of minerals and dead carcasses.

MARTIN: Mm-hmm. Let me change gears a wee bit. I’d like to get people a taste of how and why you know what you know. Let’s just dive into a bit of, well, how did Charlles become an expert in water?

CHARLLES: I started my career 35 years ago solving water problems. But I am a product developer for a living. So that is the fancy 2024 term for an old-fashioned inventor. And I have developed products across a range of industries. First, we develop the product. I design it. We test it as a prototype. And then we put it into full-blown manufacturing. We manufacture a complete line of ozone equipment, sanitizing equipment. And then I hold patents for nanotechnology in water, something called nanoplasmoid generation, a nanobubble. So I’ve been at the water thing for a long time.

But I started studying the work of a brilliant guy named Victor Schauberger about 15-20 years ago. Victor Schauberger, in my mind, is the 2nd greatest genius of the 20th century that very little is known about by most people. I would say the greatest mind of the 20th century was a guy named Nikola Tesla. And the second greatest mind was a guy named Victor Schauberger. In many ways, they were contemporaries in terms of their lifespan. Victor is a little bit younger than Nikola. And he was born in Austria.

He became a forest warden in the Black Forest at the turn of the last century. And he’s become the father of a science that today we call biomimicry. His motto was to study nature, understand it, and then copy it. So he was very scientifically minded. When he was out in the forest making his rounds, he studied the streams and the rivers. He made detailed notes of the hydrological cycle. He studied how trout were able to seemingly defy gravity and swim upstream, jumping up waterfalls that would blow a 250-pound man right off of his feet. They couldn’t stand in this water. And here these trout are virtually flying up the waterfall. He began to develop theories about water that were radical, literally setting the world of modern hydrology on its head when divulged.

His first claim to fame was after being a forest warden for 20 years. His baron that he worked for had issued a challenge to build the world’s largest log flume. A log flume is sort of like a chute full of water that kind of looks like the amusement park rides where they have the hollowed-out logs and the people ride inside of them when they go flowing down a hillside into a body of water and splash at the bottom. What they would do is in order to log these forests that were up high in the mountains, they would chop down the trees and then typically they would put them into the rivers and they would go all the way down the rivers and the streams so they got to the bottom of the valleys where the wood processing mills and plants were. These deep forests were so far away that the logs would become smashed to smithereens and be unusable. The only practical way that they developed to get them out was to build something called a log flume, which is a trough shaped like a ‘U’ and it would be full of water. They would float the logs down the chute. The problem was this forest that they wanted to log was further away than any conventional log flume had ever been built.

MARTIN: The high density point for water right.

CHARLLES: Absolutely, and he was able to float these logs that were considered to be heavier than water, that would not float, yet in this ice-cold 39-degree water, he was able to get enough buoyancy to send them down the chute. So all of the modern hydrologists that had lost this competition for building this log flume came out and they just ridiculed him. They said, ‘It’ll never work.’ And he said, ‘Oh, you’re probably right.’ So he let one of them try to operate it, and of course, it didn’t work. Then he had the logs removed that they couldn’t float. He emptied all the warm water, he filled it up with the ice-cold mountain stream water, and started sending these logs. It was so successful that he attracted the attention of probably the most brilliant European hydrological engineer from Germany, who became his good friend.

He was so old that he was no longer worried about his reputation in the end because it was established as a professor, and he brought him to speak before the hydrological societies of Europe, expounding his theories that he’d come up with. And that became my love affair with learning about Schauberger.

He didn’t just do log flumes; he studied everything about water. He learned that water has this capacity to store information. And that in nature, water clears that memory out by swirling the water through vortices and tumbling and cavitating. In modern engineering, we try to eliminate cavitation at all costs because it can be quite a powerful force that can eat up propellers on the back of boats and destroy parts. But in nature, cavitation served as a principle of scrubbing and erasing and re-priming the water to be fresh and full of information.

He also discovered that water has a life cycle much like everything else. It has an infantile state, an adolescent state, a mature state, and an aged state. And he believed that we should only be drinking water that was from the mature state because water that’s brand new, infantile water, new water, like distilled water or reverse osmosis water or rainwater that’s just gone through the rebirth in a hydrological cycle, is empty. It’s starving for information because the minerals have all been stripped out of it during its rebirthing processes, steam recondensing in the form of distilled water or rain being born from the evaporation-condensation cycle in the hydrological cycle, or being stripped of its minerals forcefully under pressure through reverse osmosis. In all cases, it’s virtually free of minerals, and so it wants to have information.

So, if you drink distilled water, it’s great for a cleanse. But over a long period of time, it can have detrimental effects. The same has been demonstrated with rainwater, and even reverse osmosis water has even more negative effects. But Victor began building devices to simulate the erasure of the information and then recreate perfect water. He developed many different ways to do this, but his research is really just groundbreaking, it’s seminal. It didn’t just start with the water and end with water; he developed devices for energy and all sorts of different technology.

MARTIN: What’s interesting here of course is that this goes against what the scientist, the hydrologist is taught at school to this day.

CHARLLES: Absolutely.

MARTIN: Like that whole concept became encapsulated and set aside because the engineering mind doesn’t understand it.

CHARLLES: That’s right, and they’re given a very limited, needle-like focus in their university training. And then they even let you know that this happens because you graduate with a degree. And my question always is, how many degrees does it take to become a whole? Right there’s 360 degrees in a circle, so if you only have one degree, you’re obviously deficient to the tune of 359 other subjects. And this is where we’ve allowed our expert mentality, our expert worship, to really devolve society in a negative way.

But he discovered that by cutting the trees down along rivers, we’re raising the temperature of our water and it destroys the hydrological cycle. And the worst thing you can ever do is build a dam on a river, and they do it all over in order to generate electricity. And that is also incredibly flawed. And Victor proved this because a way to create energy, he created a way to make energy from a river without doing any damming.

So, a very simple principle in hydrology, and they used this in the 1800’s to take apart whole mountains when they were mining, is they would take a stream at the top of a hill, and they would capture it into a large pipe 10, 12, 14, 18 inches wide. And then gradually they would narrow the pipe narrower and narrower and narrower and narrower. And when they got down to the bottom of the hill, it would go into a two-inch hose, and at the end of the hose there would be a nozzle with a half of an inch opening. And you would get pressure in thousands of pounds per square inch. And they could just take this water and carve apart hillsides to mine for gold and run all that muddy water into sluices and pan for free gold with it.

Well, that simple principle of reducing the orifice size and increasing pressure, we all know about because we have them in our backyards. Everybody has it in their house, it’s called a nozzle for your garden hose. So you restrict the orifice size on your hose, and all of a sudden that water that’s just coming out in a big arc when the nozzle isn’t on, you put the nozzle on, now it’ll shoot across your yard. Well, that principle can be applied to generating electricity in rivers, and that’s exactly what Victor Schauberger did.

He would constrict the river, force it through a narrow opening, which increased the pressure many hundreds of times. And then he developed a floating turbine that would take the pressurized water. Even more importantly, he created a shunt so that all of the fish and natural life of the river could go around it and not through the turbine. So it was nature’s, not harming nature, not destroying and killing the fish like we do with our modern turbines. And you can do this thousands of times down a river, you can have thousands of bends, thousands of constriction points, thousands of turbines.

MARTIN: Open to slow down, narrow to speed up 

CHARLLES: Yes. And so you know we’ve,

MARTIN: Okay so i’m trying to get to you telling, 

CHARLLES: And in studying all of this, I began to realize that everything that I’d been taught about water was essentially a lie. And I began building structuring devices, testing them, and I found the most astonishing things happening. One of the things I’ve been in love with for 30 years is electrolysis, the splitting of water into hydrogen and oxygen. And you know, there is a principle in electrolysis that if you’re taking water without any minerals in it, without any electrolyte, it will not separate, it won’t split because it won’t carry an electrical current. And what I found is by taking distilled water and running it through certain structuring devices a few times. I was able to get that water with no electrolyte, no minerals, to now begin to dissociate and do electrolysis without adding electrolytes.

Today in electrolysis, we add catalyst metals to our plates if we’re trying to split water without adding electrolytes like sodium hydroxide or baking soda or potassium hydroxide or things like that. But I found you could take regular distilled water without minerals and by running it through certain structuring devices a few times, get that water to split, which told me that everything I’d been taught wasn’t true.

Then I built something called a Brown’s gas torch, and I was able to take a 280-degree flame and sublimate tungsten, which has a 10,000-degree Fahrenheit sublimation point. That’s turning it from a solid directly into a gas. Now, this is 280 degrees; it’s barely hot enough to boil water. Yet here I am taking a tungsten rod, which requires 10,000 degrees Fahrenheit to sublimate, and turning it directly into a gas. And I began to realize that water was really something special. And that’s when I started to learn about the anomalous nature of water and its capacity to be a heat sink, and its capacity to expand when it’s frozen, when 99.9% of everything else on Earth contracts when it’s cold and on and on and on. And that’s what led me to the science of understanding the science of water, the anomalies of water, and realizing that I hadn’t been given the whole story at the university and in high school and physics and science classes.

MARTIN: So you would probably say that the inventor’s mind that allows you to think outside of the box allowed you to also… see that the box you were in was just limiting and incorrect, yeah? 

CHARLLES: Well, I built my first one of these Brown’s gas generators, and I did this, some of these anomalous things. And I called my cousin up, who’s a PhD in chemistry, and I told him what I’d done. And he said: “Well, you can’t have done that. That’s impossible.”

MARTIN: There. 

CHARLES: So let me send you a video. It’s absolutely not impossible. Here I am doing it on camera. And you know, it was hard for his conditioned mind to even accept what he was seeing with his own eyes, even talking to his first cousin that we grew up very, very close. 

MARTIN: Okay, so you stripped it apart? 

CHARLLES: Yes. 

MARTIN: So I guess what we have is that we have most of the products that we find in our marketplace are made with the education that the person has received, through the classic engineering sciency mindset. And therefore, we don’t even know there’s a problem. 

CHARLLES: That’s right. 

MARTIN: Yeah. 

CHARLLES: That’s right. You know, and I found that talking to these classically educated scientists, if you ask them the right questions, they’ll become aware of the problems of their own devices. And they’ll acknowledge them. But you’ve got to, you’ve got to lead them to it, because at first glance, they hold to what their original training was. 

Speaking of household water, you know, there was another study that was done at the University of Manchester on shower heads, and the water coming out of showers, and the things they found are just… they’re frightening. A lot of the same things that we’ve talked about. But, you know, skin conditions caused by all these different types of bacteria that live and breathe and breed in the shower head, and then the minerals and then the off-gassing. I mentioned radon off-gassing and being able to contaminate your lungs; the chlorine off-gasses every single time. 

And we held it up to the chart, and there was four times the chlorine that was safe to swim, coming out of the tap. And later, I found out that the chlorine, we think of the smell of bleach as being this pungent thing. And later on, I found that chlorine is an odorless gas. And so, they add that chemical to it so we don’t unintentionally breathe it. And so we know that we’re breathing it, we know that there’s a danger. And so you can be breathing this chlorine, and you have no knowledge that it’s there because you can’t smell it when you’re in the shower. 

Some people with a sensitive palate can taste it, but smelling it, it’s about impossible. And so, you’re standing there, you have this heated up thing, your pores are wide open, your skin starts accepting it. They found tons of types of fungus that can grow on the scalp, a lot of times, skin and hair conditions that have been diagnosed as dandruff or, you know, eczema or psoriasis, in many cases, have been attributed to fungal infections that people may not realize. One of the biggest sources can be their own showerhead and their water supply coming from the tap.

MARTIN: Yes, indeed! So, where to now? Meaning, we have gizmos and gadgets all over, right? We see water filters, either a pitcher that will remove some chlorine simply, or we have the carbon block that we use. We have the reverse osmosis household filter. We have the water softener that we use to deal with hard water. We have some people with iron in their water, sulfur in their water, and hard water stains all over. I mean, every part of the continent has a different problem, right? 

CHARLLES: That’s right. Well, water softeners, the most common form in the United States and Canada are the big saltwater ion exchangers. And you know what a lot of people don’t realize is, in that salt tank, it can become a breeding ground for many different types of bacteria. Legionella, I mentioned it loves saltwater, it can swim right around in that tank and breed. And there are many other types. The other thing is, they’re problematic. I mean, over the course of my 53 years of adult life, I’ve seen hundreds of them at customers’ homes that were broken. And sometimes the house will have not one, not two, but three of those things, and two that are broken and one that’s working because they’re so stinking heavy. There’s two or three hundred pounds of salt in the tank, and when it breaks, they have the new company come out and install a new one, and no one hauls away the old one. So these garages and basements all over North America are full of these broken saltwater systems. And because it’s clogging, it’s scaling. But the other thing is, it’s putting in levels of sodium that really aren’t healthy into the water. Yes, there’s an ion exchange that’s happening, but it’s not the best way to do it, and it can become a breeding ground for bacteria.

And getting into the filtration, there are only a few commonly used types of filtration in North America and even globally. And they principally break down into either granular or porous-based carbon, solid block carbon, paper filters, or synthetic membrane filters that usually are for big chunks. And then you’ve got the reverse osmosis, which is incredibly tiny microscopic pores that water is forced through under pressure, typically with a booster pump to squish it through these tiny little holes. And they all have problems. There are some other media, some of the media that have copper and other things that are in them; that’s sort of a newer one. But primarily, 95% of all the filters that are sold today, it’s just carbon. And you’re dealing with granular activated carbon. And one of the latest, biggest, hottest buzzwords is organic coconut whole charcoal activated carbon filters. But the problem with any porous carbon or granular carbon filter is something called tunneling. And tunneling is where the water works its way down through the media and it creates a channel or a tunnel. And once that channel’s been formed, the water will always follow that path.

MARTIN: Yeah the least resistance, right? It’s the path of least resistance.

CHARLLES: Absolutely! Water follows the path of least resistance, it seeks the low spot and achieves its own level, and those are always principles of water. And so, when you got these tunnels that have formed, it’s not filtering anymore. Even solid block carbon filters can be prone to tunneling. Now, the way carbon works, it has an incredibly vast surface area folding up inside of the carbon itself. It does a really good job of pulling out, especially in multiple carbon filters, of taking out the petrochemical distillates, pulling out the chlorine. If you have enough of them, you can use solid block carbon filters to take out fluoride. But, and a big ‘but’, people forget that carbon, because of the gigantic surface area, is an ideal breeding ground for pathogens, viruses, bacteria, and fungal spores. And so, as they begin to filter out the ‘crap’, you get organic particulate that builds up on the surface area of the carbon, which becomes an ideal food source for the microbiological and fungal and viral pathogens. And then they start to accumulate and feed on the crud that the carbon filter is pulling out.

Now, back 35 years ago when I was 18, and they had these little countertop filters, they were proud to say that they were silver impregnated so that they could not grow bacteria. But that’s virtually gone the way of the dodo bird. Silver has become a lot more expensive. In the last 35 years, the cost of precious metals has skyrocketed. They’re being used more and more in industrial activities for electronics and other things, and their value has increased. And so, they’ve eliminated them from the filter media, by and large. So 99% of your carbon filters that are sold today are just carbon. There’s no copper, no silver, no antibacterial of any kind, let alone antifungal or antiviral. So, you can have a water filter, and it can take out all of your toxic chemicals, and it can then be introducing the bacteria, and the viruses, and the fungus right into the water line on the other side. That’s a huge,

MARTIN: Here we are building up to the big reveal, right? 

CHARLLES: Yes, yes. 

MARTIN: And the big reveal should be, having an inventor’s mind, having spent 30 years mucking around with these things, and understanding that there is a problem, you inevitably decided to do something with it, right? The carpets, the shirts, the fiber, the paper straw that you drink out of, all kinds of stuff.

CHARLLES: 45% of our water in the United States is contaminated with this. And these are called forever chemicals because you can’t get rid of them once they’re in your body. Or in the soil or any place else. So, this filtration system removes 99.9999% of all the forever chemicals, everything from DDT to PFOS, PFOA. They came out with one that’s supposed to be less toxic called X, which is even more toxic than the one they were replacing it with. Most of them were created by the DuPont company. Well, that’s true.

So, I have a brilliant friend because I’ve been in nanotechnology for the last eight or nine years in water. One of my good friends started a novel filter company. And his goal and his business are directly for the medical industry. He sells water filters to dentists, doctors, and surgeons that have in house surgical theaters. Because the water they use for irrigation of the mouth and wounds and surgery has to be ultra pure. It can’t have bacteria or viruses. It’ll introduce a pathogen into the body that can create infection and cause death.

Many years ago, he engaged the services of a Princeton nanotechnology professor. And he developed the base layer of the filters that I use today. It’s a nanoceramic. And he and I have taken a completely different approach to solving the water filtering conundrum. He said, ‘We’ve been using these conventional porosity based squish the water through a tiny little hole or run it through carbon to get rid of it. We’ve developed a multi-layer solution we call a biodynamic filter, where the base layer is this nanotech with electrical charge. And then each subsequent layer uses electrical charge in a different way. These are permanent charges applied to the layers. And we target different things.

The great thing about it, because we’re not relying on tiny little holes, it’s a very high flow-through system. So we can get a huge amount of water volume treated in a very small package. You see most of these whole house systems and they’re as tall as I am, these giant five-foot-tall tanks to, I mean, I’m 5’10”, but still, they come up to your nose and they’re needing that much to get, this crud out, because it’s gotta run through the tiny little pores and go through all that surface area. Where when you’re using electrical charge, you can grab far more contaminant and use it in a lot smaller space, a lot smaller embodiment. And each layer pulls out different things. 

The first thing we go after is the biologicals. We want to physically remove the bacteria, the virus and the fungus.  We want to pull the dead carcass out. You may have heard me refer to biofilm during the course of this speech, and biofilm is an accretion, almost like a cementicious accretion. Based on the bodies of dead bacteria and viruses, it builds up, builds up, and builds up and becomes like a cement. Very hard to get rid of. And then you have living bacteria that hide behind this cementicious accretion, in the biofilms themselves. And they lay down different proteins and things to hide and protect themselves from detection and eradication. So, we are actually physically pulling out the bacteria. 

We take it out to ten nines, that’s 99.9999999999%. And that’s about as close to 100% as you can get. Each point on the decimal table is a logarithmic increase. So each decimal point takes ten times more than the one before that. We are able to take viruses out to 7 nines, 7 nines is a virostatic. That means 99.999999%, and you’re getting this huge almost complete elimination of virus and bacteria, and of course the fungus is larger than both. It takes all of them out. And that’s the first layer, and after that we target the toxic elements. 

We’re looking at the uranium, the cadmium, the manganese. We’re taking out the iron and the sulfurs. But we want to leave the magnesium, we want to leave the calcium, we want to leave some of the trace cobalt and copper, and some of the things we need as trace elements for your body. It’s one of the first filtration schemes that’s designed to take out the bad stuff and leave the healthy minerals that life is dependent on that we need for good health. But then we focus on removing these forever chemicals. And it’s something we just barely touched on. 

But you got the PFOS or polyfluoroalkyl substances, and these are the things that make the non-stick coatings on our pans and popcorn bags, and they’re loaded. But we are able to eliminate the bacteria, eliminate the viruses, eliminate the mold spores. We are able to remove the physical carcasses, pull out the toxic elements, pull out the forever chemicals. Our carbon layer is silver-impregnated so we aren’t getting growth in the filter medium itself. And that’s one of the important things, our filters can’t become food for the stuff that we are removing. And then what comes out of there one would think would be perfect water to drink. But, because we’re leaving the calcium and magnesium, you can still have high levels of minerals.

So, we’ve got the beginnings of changing the surface tension of the water. And that’s something we didn’t discuss yet which is clustering. So, a scientist in the 1970’s did a bunch of research on the fact that cellular water, the water inside of our cells, is very different from the rest of water. He found that by breaking down the clusters in water, you’re able to get closer to the cellular water. And this research was then recently resubstantiated by Dr Gerald Pollack, author of the “Four Phases of Water ”, from Washington University. And has been replicated hundreds of times by hundreds of scientists around the world. And now hundreds of papers have been peer-viewed and published on this structured sort of water that can be made by running water through very tiny fibers and tubules. And they call it EZ water and the Fourth Phase water, it’s very similar to cellular water. 

We want to start breaking up these water crystals. So as the water exits our filter, we’re running it through a 10,000 gauss magnetic field, which is incredibly powerful. Begins to stretch the bond angle of the water a little bit, break up the clusters, and then we run it past a, start spinning it in a vortex. Now, this is the beginning of erasing the information, but this is still part of our softening technology. So, we’re running it past these catalyst discs. And this was developed in the 1960s actually by the US military, a salt-free softening technology, where we’re running past these catalyst discs. The catalysts don’t get into the water they don’t get used up, but they do change up to 80% of the calcium and magnesium to the crystal form. And in their crystal form, they’re still able to be used by biology, but they don’t accumulate on the sidewalls of the pipes and in your hot water tank and on your sinks and your toilets and your tubs. And so we’ve got this salt-free water softening system that has the dual benefit of beginning to erase that information. 

And then the last thing that we do is we run it through what’s called a water structuring device. There we recreate the vortices and the cavitation of nature that you find as water tumbles through a stream and over waterfalls. And as we’re doing it, we’re running it past two biofield imprinting devices. And these are so powerful that it creates actual electricity-free ionization as water passes through the biofield in printing. And there are hundreds of types of frequencies that are imprinted into the water of minerals and organic matrices that make that water mature,  Victor Schauberger in healthy water.

And we have documented studies on crops as diverse as corn to mangoes, showing anywhere from 20% to 250% crop yield increases by just putting the structuring unit on the end of an irrigation hose. And you’ll get that benefit when you water your own plants and your own flowers and your own shrubs around your home when you have this installed on your water main. And this system is designed to go on the inlet water side of the house before your hot water tank. So that you’re running filtered water, structured water, softened water throughout every single faucet, every single shower head, every toilet in your home. 

And now you’re no longer breathing it. You’re no longer showering in it. You’re no longer bathing in it, and you’re no longer re-polluting the Earth by watering your plants and your shrubs with it every time you turn the water out of your faucet. And that’s the real problem, people try to do these point of use filtration on sinks and their kitchen, and they get their little glass from their little thing and they’re getting it out of their granulated activated carbon or solid carbon.  And the fact of the matter is, it’s just a…

MARTIN: Well, I’d say that the major issue of that has been cost, right? When the cost of filters is significant and the cost of a filtration system itself goes really big to do the whole house, then you will just say: “I’m only going to filter the water I drink.” Rather than all the water that I use from my showers, for my garden, for washing my dog, and for flushing my toilet.

CHARLLES: Well, that and a lack of information. A lot of people don’t realize just how bad the problem really is. 

MARTIN: Yes. 

CHARLLES: I, unfortunately, I’m in a borrowed studio here, and my time is running up. I don’t know what your time is. 

MARTIN: Well, we’ve been talking too slow, too rich, too much. Well, let’s see if we can just drive it to some conclusion here in the next two minutes… 

CHARLLES: Sure, sure. 

MARTIN: Which is, so there we are. The best candidate for this solution is someone who has their own house, because this is not a tiny thing, right? Like you can’t put it in a condo. 

CHARLLES: That’s right. And it is a very small form factor for a whole house structuring, filtering, and softening system.

MARTIN: But end to end, it’s going to be yay big, right? 

CHARLLES: Yeah, 20 inch tall filters. A couple feet of space, eight inches deep to get it installed. 

MARTIN: Doesn’t fit under a sink. You need a basement or someplace. 

CHARLLES: No, it goes in wherever your city water main goes, in before your hot water tank or your tankless heater. And it can be installed typically by a plumber. But if you are an adventurous homeowner, it’s not very difficult to install the system. Today, we’ve got these ingenious new fittings called SharkBite. It’s almost impossible to find the old-fashioned copper fittings that you would sweat with a torch anymore because everyone’s plumbing with these push-and-click fittings. So, you can have a copper fitting, and you just push it onto one side; it goes onto a copper pipe, and on the other side, it’ll go onto a PVC pipe, and no glue, no sweat, no mess. It’s just like kindergartners can do it. But if you’re not so inclined and you’re less brave, then a plumber can typically install this in a couple of hours. 

MARTIN: All right. So what’s the frequency of filter changes on this? 

CHARLLES: For municipal water, it’s just one filter change a year. They’re relatively inexpensive, a few hundred dollars per year to have perfectly clean water. If you’re on a well system, we recommend that you actually send us a water report, and we’ll design a custom solution along with the frequency of changes that are needed. Usually, it’s only twice a year, but we want to make sure if you have something particularly nasty in your well water, that we give you a system that’s custom designed to handle that for you. And it usually doesn’t increase the cost. You might have to add another section. 

MARTIN: Awesome. Well, we will come up with a picture to include somewhere here along the way. 

CHARLLES: We have some very exciting things coming beyond that. We’re going to have a whole house on demand. We’re going to have hand ozonated water. Right after the filter, we’ll have a unit that actually uses electrolysis to generate ozone. And you can hit a button on your phone and have ozone water come out of your taps. We’ll have the same thing for molecular hydrogen on demand. And we didn’t even touch the base that I’ve created non-toxic chemical-free swimming pool systems and bathing systems that are being used by doctors and hospitals. And all sorts of things. But this isn’t the only thing that we’ve ever developed. But it’s certainly something that every single person who has a body and a house needs. 

MARTIN: All right. That, I think, holds it together for us. We will probably have to bring you in one more time to tell us when it’s ready. And maybe, just maybe, people will start writing in to us, asking: “Tell me more about this Schauberger story.”  Or, we haven’t even started digging into the Tesla story and other bits. 

CHARLLES: No, no. I’m available any time. I enjoy it. You’re a great conversationalist. We had a great fun our first talk. 

MARTIN: All right. So we’re going to do more of this. So for now, this is Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast. And Charles Bohdy, our water filter man. We will have this device in the shopping cart. It’s not inexpensive. It’s for the homeowner who is ready to have a life free of toxins and rich in water with full information, as God intended. And clustering that allows full cellular hydration without any fuss. Every drop throughout the entire system. 

CHARLLES: Absolutely. 

MARTIN: Charlles, thank you very much for your time. We’ll connect again. 

CHARLLES: Thank you, Martin. It’s a true pleasure, as always. 

MARTIN: Thank you for listening. This is Life-Enthusiast.com. Martin Pytela. If you need to call, it’s 866-543-3388. Thank you for being here today.