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Podcast 484:  Lung Repairs with Alvectin

On today’s podcast, Spencer Feldman from Remedy Link joins Martin to explore the crucial subject of lung health. Discover how environmental pollutants, microplastics, and toxins impact your lungs. Learn about Alvectin, a cutting-edge product designed to detox the lungs and support lung surfactant proteins to enhance respiratory function.

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MARTIN: Hello there everyone! Martin Pytela for Life Enthusiast with me today, Spencer Feldman. Spencer is relentless. He has come up with more inventions. And today we’re going to talk about your lungs. Spencer Feldman from RemedyLink. Welcome.

SPENCER: Hey, how’s it going, Martin?

MARTIN: Oh, it’s going all right for me.

SPENCER: Okay, so let’s talk about lungs. I’ve been researching the human body now for about 30 years. And one of the things that I find when I do analyses of people’s bodies and try to figure out what was going on for them is, by and large, almost everybody had lung damage. It was to the point where I almost started ignoring it because it was everybody. Every time I looked at someone’s free radical load, the lungs are the ones are the most damaged. 

MARTIN: I have a thought on that. Industrial revolution. Burning of coal. Burning of wood. Forest fires. Cars. Industrial pollution.

SPENCER: Yeah. I mean, most humans live in cities and by highways. And if you ever are in the country driving towards a city, you’ll see a brown dome over the city. So, if you live in a city or near a highway, it’s like smoking a couple packs of cigarettes a day. There are some parts of the world where it’s like smoking a pack or two a day, just going outside and breathing. So, yes, there’s all the particulate matter. Well, let me back up. 

I didn’t know, I never really found a great way to support lungs. Yes, spirulina for some reason seemed to be beneficial in lungs. But I think that was more quenching the free radical damage and not so much clearing out the actual toxins. And so it was always in the back of my mind. I thought that one of these days, if I ever figure out how to clean out the lungs, that would really be great. So now there’s another issue. 

Then there’s microplastics, right? Because the amount of microplastics is just absurd. There’s so many tons of this stuff. And it breaks down and gets finer and finer and finer and it gets into the atmosphere. So we’re all breathing microplastics in all the time. There’s like, what, 400 million tons of plastic made around the world each year that ends up in landfills. And it keeps breaking down from the sun and goes airborne. So, I’ve always been wondering: how could we clean out the lungs? And so the first thing we could talk about is this microparticulates.

SPENCER: Right. So the ability to remove a particulate depends on the size of the particulate and its electrical charge. Mucus in the lungs is negatively charged. So if what comes in is positively charged, which it often is, it can stick to the mucus. And also, if it’s relatively large, it can get stuck to the mucus. And then what happens is there’s these little finger-like projections called cilia that rhythmically move the mucus up and out of the lungs at about a quarter to half an inch a minute. And it kind of vibrates at around ten cycles per second. And then you swallow it and now it goes into the toilet. That’s assuming that you have proper mucus function, which requires bicarbonates, which is another conversation. But let’s assume you do for now. 

So the larger particles don’t tend, they tend to get stuck in the mucus. If they’re neutral, they don’t get stuck in it so much as dissolved in it. But either way, they come out. The question really is, what about the really tiny ones? And so at the very end of the lungs or the center of the lungs, like after you breathe it and it goes all the way down to the place where the gases are being exchanged, they exchange in a place called alveoli. And you have 400 million, or at least you start with.

MARTIN: Think of tiny little caves like a sponge.

SPENCER: Tiny little sacks. 400 million of these little sacs called alveoli. And that’s eventually where the oxygen and the carbon dioxide exchange in the lungs. And we don’t have mucus or cilia in these tiny little sacs. How could we? They’re so small. And if mucus gets in there, you couldn’t breathe. So the problem is, how do the alveoli get detoxed? Because if you breathe in really, really tiny microparticles like smoking cigarettes or you drive a lot and you’re breathing in the exhaust and the brake pad particulate or you’re in a city or the microplastics, some of that gets into the alveoli. How do you get rid of it? Okay. 

To get rid of stuff out of the alveoli, we rely on our white blood cells. And they can try to digest the particles. But they’re not digesting plastic. They’re meant to digest infections. 

MARTIN: Also, I’m also thinking of the famous asbestos. The tiny needles o silicates of some sort.

SPENCER: Yeah, there’s a lot of things in glass fragments that get in. So the first thing is you could try to have the white blood cells digest them. They can’t digest them. They can try to push them into the lymphatics and then get them out the lymph, or they can try to shove them out of the alveoli and pass them on to the mucus and the cilia to push them out. But regardless of how the white blood cells get rid of the particulate, they first have to know that they’re there. So they have to get tagged. And this is done with special proteins called lung surfactant proteins. And what they do is they tag these particles and they stick them together in little clumps. So the white blood cells can then find them. And they kind of put them into little garbage bags. Get them all together. And then the white blood cells either push them out of the alveoli or into the lymph. So that’s one way in which we clear that out. That is really pretty much the main particulate. Volatile organic compounds are certainly toxic, but they’ll typically come out. Or you can bind to them with glutathione.

And it’s great to do glutathione nebulization every once in a while if your lungs are a little challenged. But the third thing is, what about infections like viruses and stuff? So, the white blood cells also try to kill the infections and move them out, and they also have to get tagged. There’s these two lung surfactants, and this is a lung surfactant A and D. And they’re associated with this kind of defense and cleaning process, pulling this junk out. Now the other thing is, there is another aspect of the lungs that have to be dealt with and that’s water in the lungs. So think of it this way. Let’s say you pour a little bit of water on your countertop in your kitchen, and then you put a pot on top of it with a flat bottom. If you try to pull the pot up, it’s kind of stuck there, right? 

MARTIN: There’s the, what do you call it? Surface tension. Yeah. Surface effects somehow. 

SPENCER: Yes. Well, why is that happening? Right. It’s not like water is sticky, but water has this property called surface tension. It likes to stick to it. Water doesn’t stick to other things, but it does stick to itself. And so when you pull it up, it tries to separate from itself. It doesn’t want to. And so it’s hard to pull it up. Well, the same thing happens in the lungs. If there’s any water in the lungs what happens is the alveoli, every time you breathe in, the alveoli have to expand a little bit. And when you breathe out they contract a little bit. Well, if there’s water in the lungs, it’s hard for them to expand. For the same reason, it’s hard to pull a pot off of a wet counter. The water is sticking to itself and it resists. So this is why near drowning and drowning is so dangerous. It’s because if water gets into the lungs, it makes it very hard for the alveoli to expand. And that’s why even a little bit of water on the lungs is a problem.

MARTIN: So this actually also reminded me of the problem with cytokine storm, where all of a sudden you have the infection and the immune system goes overdrive, and you have too much inflammatory response in the lungs, and all of a sudden there’s a whole lot of fluids and you’re drowning.

SPENCER: So the way the body keeps fluids from building up is with two different lung surfactants called B and C. And what they do is they push the water out of the alveoli. And that’s one of the reasons why, if you breathe on a cold day and you see fog in your breath, that’s your lung surfactants busy at work, pushing water out of your lungs. So now the challenge is, as we get older and as we’re exposed to toxins, the levels of our surfactants decrease. So over time, the people start to lose their lung function. And what you can do is we can put up some videos if you want. I’ll send them to you so you can edit these in. We will definitely link that. Alright. So if you take a look at these pictures on the screen now, you can see that on the images on the left, you see lungs that have some darkness in them. That’s water from people that have gone through near drowning experiences. And on the right hand side, you can see that those dark spots have diminished to a great degree. That’s after they were given lung surfactants. So you can see the lung surfactants are actually great for near drowning. And it’s something that’s actually being done more and more in emergency rooms.

MARTIN: Okay. Awesome. So if you’ve had long term water on the lungs then the surfactant will help to bring you closer to back to normal, right?

SPENCER: Another aspect of this is there are some safe and effective decisions people have made that are specifically destroying the parts of the lungs that make lung surfactants.

MARTIN: And so we are actually less efficient at making the stuff that will keep us well.

SPENCER: Right. There are some infections out there that will damage the body’s ability to make lung surfactants. Which means now, not only can’t the body go after the infection in the lungs, but there’s less, as the water builds up from inflammation, it can’t clear the water. So, the goal would be, from my perspective, what can we do to support lung surfactants? 

We have a product called Alvectin, which has a proprietary yeast extract which may support the body in healthy lung surfactant levels. And when might you want to work on lung surfactants is a great question. So let’s go over who might consider this. 

Anybody who’s ever been a smoker. Anybody who is maybe living right next to a highway or drives for a living or lives in a very polluted city, that’s something you could consider. Anybody who has either a chronic or an active infection that seems to be getting them in the respiratory centers. They could consider something to support their lung surfactants. 

Also, if you look at your blood test, if your CO2 level is 29 or more, it should be 27. And once it gets to 29, that’s indicating that the body is having a buildup of carbon dioxide. And typically the way that could happen would be the alveoli are damaged or there’s not enough of them left, and the body is not able to get rid of as much carbon dioxide as it wants to. So a CO2 level above 27 is an indication that somebody might want to start supporting their lung function.

MARTIN: Alright. Yeah, I recall so well, my father, a smoker, would spend the first hour of every morning hacking, just trying to bring out all the stuff that came in the day before. And it was quite interesting. And now listen to this, I have moved to a new area. I have moved into a more industrialized, urbanized place and I now have more coughing issues than I’ve had when I lived in a better environment.

SPENCER: Yeah. When lungs get damaged, when the alveoli fail, it’s not the kind of thing that typically gets recovered. It’s really something you want to protect. You don’t want to lose alveoli as you age, and you want to protect the ones you have. Being able to get carbon dioxide out and bring oxygen in, it’s fundamental to how healthy you’re going to be and what your experience of having a body is going to be like.

So, I got to say, I was looking for something to support lung surfactants for 20 years, and I’d kind of given up on it, Martin. I was like, okay, it’s just not going to happen. They do make lung surfactants for premature delivery babies. But you need a prescription, and it’s incredibly expensive. And I thought, God, is there any way to support this in adults? And when I found out that there was, I was really excited. So if I either feel like I’ve been exposed to something either particulate matter, like maybe it’s smoke season, or maybe I’m in a car with someone who’s coughing and they’ve got a cold, whether it’s particulate or whether it’s infectious. That’s my signal. Okay, you know what? Let’s boost my, let’s see if I can support my lung surfactant levels a little bit right now. Maybe now’s a good time for that.

MARTIN: All right, so how do you administer this? Is it capsules?

SPENCER: Oh yeah. It’s a liposomal capsule. So it’s pretty easy.

MARTIN: So, take one. Take two. How do you do it?

SPENCER: Right. I mean, the stuff is harmless. So you could take lots of it. I mean, I’ve taken tablespoons. But basically the idea would be based on body weight. You could do 1 or 2 a day if you’re thinking, hey, I’m just going to do a lung detox. Or if you thought, wow, I think I’m coming down with something, what can I do to support my lungs right now? You could consider, I’ve taken as much as 2 to 3 capsules an hour for a little while. Just if I felt like I was at a risk to,

MARTIN: Every hour for the next 12.

SPENCER: Yeah, that’s what I’ve done for myself.

MARTIN: 24 capsules in the next 12 hours.

SPENCER: That’s what I’ve done when I thought I might be coming down with something.

MARTIN: All right. Okay. So this is like a rapid, let’s just strengthen the entire inner works from the nose in.

SPENCER: Well, most specifically, we’re looking at the alveoli. Now, having said that, if a person’s lung surfactant system improves, there’s no reason that it wouldn’t. Even though lung surfactants are primarily in the lungs, the ability to tag infections can happen anywhere. So it is possible that if you support your lung surfactants, that you could have a global improvement, regardless of where the body might be challenged at the moment.

MARTIN: All right. This is really good. I think this pretty much completes this introduction of Alvectin. It’s super exciting because it’s natural. You say it comes from yeast, actually, but it’s not going to give people Candida. Don’t be afraid of yeast. And here we are. Does it need to be refrigerated?

SPENCER: Does it need to be? No. Having said that, everything lasts longer in the fridge. I would say I would like it to be refrigerated. Anytime you’re dealing with small molecules that, um, where the shape of something is very important. So what does it mean for something to be colder versus hotter? The hotter a thing is, the more it vibrates. That’s what heat is. It’s a measurement of the vibration of something, how much it’s wiggling at a molecular level. And so if you have something that’s a relatively complex molecule, you don’t want it to wiggle too much because eventually it will break. Right. So when you have complex molecules, have them wiggle less and they’ll last longer. That’s not something you have to worry about for say something like, vitamin C. That’s very simple. But if you have something that’s a complex protein, then you would be well advised to keep it as cool as possible.

MARTIN: All right, Spencer, thank you for introducing Alvectin. This is awesome. So think: lungs, lung health. If you’re coughing, if you’re challenged by respiratory problems.

SPENCER: Well, I wouldn’t focus on the negative. I would say focusing on the positive. If you would like to support excellent lung health, then consider how to support your lung surfactant proteins.

MARTIN: Awesome. This has been Spencer Feldman from Remedy Link. Martin Pytela, life-enthusiast.com by phone at (866) 543-3388. Thank you.